I'm a size 30 waist, and skinny 20" thighs. I bought APC ND s28 and they were really tight for the first couple days where I could barely walk. 3 days later, they're stretched to the point the jeans flare out from the back and my ass looks visibly baggy even from the front. Thighs are very roomy. I f*cked up my first denim purchase, haha. Now I'm looking to buy Size 29 N&F Slim Guy Broken Twill Selvedge... yes or no?