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First proper watch

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by MGLL, Jan 13, 2013.

  1. MGLL

    MGLL Active Member

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    Looking to buy my first proper watch and have been thinking IWC Ingenieur 3227-01 or 372501


    I have long been seeking a mint 3227-01 but have not yet seen one in the flesh. The other day whilst on my search I saw the 372501 and thought it looked stunning. What would you recommend? The purchase will be my first proper watch and a present to myself for finishing my Masters. It will most likely be a keeper and a watch I will wear often but in a rotation with my Tissot PRC200 on black leather strap (dressy?) and G-shock GA-150 in black (gym/sports).

    I would also consider other watches. My criteria is steel, sports/dive/tool watch, worn with jeans and t-shirt as well as suit, preferably in-house movement, 39mm minimum, 45mm maximum. I would prefer something a little bit unique (hence the 322701), nothing with too much colour, just classic and timeless. I also considered a Rolex SD/Sub but feel they are becoming a little common and you see too many replicas... Budget is $3,500 to $5,750. (£2,000 to £3,500)

    Advice/pictures greatly appreciated,

    Marco
     


  2. Gauss17

    Gauss17 Senior member

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    My recommendations for your criterion:

    Rolex Explorer I, 39mm, 100 M WR

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    IWC vintage Ingenieur, 42.5mm, 120 M WR

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  3. MGLL

    MGLL Active Member

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    Thanks for the reply. I did consider the Explorer 1 and it is a beautiful watch, however I do personally prefer the Ingenieur. I know that despite saying 39mm is the minimum, ideally I would prefer to go a little bigger. Despite this being my first proper purchase I do love watches and Genta's designs. A 39mm RO auto would be the perfect watch for me right now but it is out of budget. In your opinion what makes the Explorer 1 stand out over the Ingenieurs I posted?

    I am looking for a watch with a steel strap as well.
     


  4. MGLL

    MGLL Active Member

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    Here are some pictures of the watches in question:

    3227-01

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    3227-01 wrist shot


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    372501


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    Photos taken from various forums.
     


  5. papa kot

    papa kot Senior member

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    - You already have a sports watch (G-Shock)
    - A watch that is generally accepted with a t-shirt/jeans may not be accepted with a suit
    - You budget is too low for something decent that you can wear for years without being ubiquitous
    - You will have an advanced degree which promises, in theory, a higher pay in the future

    With this in mind, may I suggest saving your money until you can delight yourself with something worthy of your hard years in school?
     


  6. DJosef

    DJosef Senior member

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    Okay, forget sports/dive/tool. You already have two of those. (The PRC200 is NOT dressy. It's a sports watch. Anything that has these small gimmicky dials on it is a sports watch.)
    Also, I'd drop the 39mm minimum requirement. Get something understated and yet classy.

    $5,750 is LOW for a watch? Well may be if you're out for a minute repeater, or something made of solid gold, but it's more than enough to get a proper, respectable automatic.
    In my opinion, a watch doesn't need to be worth a small home in Florida. In fact, I prefer if it isn't. There is a place in a man's life for buying a >$10,000 watch, but it's when he has made it* and wants to reward himself. Or if he's a hopeless watch otaku. :D
    (* - Made it, as in become a C-level executive of a publicly listed company, or made his first million in private assets.)
     


  7. papa kot

    papa kot Senior member

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    $5,750 is indeed low for a watch that meets the criteria of being proper and non-ubiquitous.

    Most of the watches that come with this price tag (even used) are mass produced and "exclusive" only in the words of clever marketing gurus. While dropping more than 5 grand on a watch may sound ridiculous, I'd rather get a watch as opposed to a brand new car whose value will depreciate by that much within a couple of years.

    The bottom line is: Either get something understated for less than $2K or wait until you can afford something useful.
     


  8. UnnamedPlayer

    UnnamedPlayer Senior member

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    wanker
     


  9. jt10000

    jt10000 Senior member

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    Probably right about exclusivity. And a little pathetic to care about it that much.
     


  10. papa kot

    papa kot Senior member

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    Well, the OP stated that he wanted something unusual...

    This is not that uncommon though... If you spend so much money on an accessory -- and let's face it a mechanical watch is one today -- you'd want something slightly different.
     


  11. jeff13007

    jeff13007 Senior member

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    JLC Reverso in stainless steel with a brown strap!



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  12. RogerP

    RogerP Senior member

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    Here you go: classic elegance with a subtle dose of sixties style:

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    And here's a wild card. Probably the last piece that you want to get if your goal is to impress brand snobs, and likely only appreciated by a subset of watch enthusiasts, but the Grand Seiko automatic lineup gives up absolutely nothing in quality to any remotely comparable IWC / JLC / Omega, and is far less common than any of those:


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    A nice crossover beach-to-boardroom piece would be this Omega Aqua Terra. The new cal 8500 movement is just superb:

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    For a dress watch, I will repeat myself in suggesting that vintage pieces offer an unbeatable combination of classic style and value in a manufacture piece:


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  13. MGLL

    MGLL Active Member

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    Thank you guys for actually being helpful unlike some of the others in this thread. I forgot to mention that I am looking into the second hand market (should have been obvious by the Ingenieurs I am looking at being dis-continued), and as a result have a little more scope. The Explorer that you mentioned is indeed a beautiful piece but I don't feel particularly drawn to it, I wouldn't want to spend so much on something that I didn't absolutely love! That Omega Aqua Terra is another that I have been keeping an eye on and is absolutely stunning. Does anyone have any experience with owning one?

    With the responses in this topic coupled with my knowledge and research I am edging towards finding a mint 3227-01.
     


  14. usctrojans31

    usctrojans31 Senior member

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    Wholeheartedly recommend Bremont anything. They are rare and known mostly to horological fans and I'd argue that there is no better bang for the buck.
     


  15. MGLL

    MGLL Active Member

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    Thanks for the advice, any particular model?
     


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