First Chan suit received

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jester, Apr 25, 2005.

  1. HitMan009

    HitMan009 Senior member

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    Gentlemen,

    I have been reading this thread and am truly dishearten by all this back and forth.  The poster only wanted to know if the suit fits horribly(which it does by the way).  No one can be perfect no matter how much experience they may have, be it a tailor or any other profession.  Heck even machines make mistakes, mostly human caused but I digress.  This is obviously a poor example of WWChan's work.  I have had two suits made by Chan and the third one arriving in the next few weeks.  The first one fit well but the front wasn't as opened as I liked.  My second one was near exactly what I was looking for.  To me, it's like evolution.  Little tweaks here and there.  Even on true bespoke fittings, the rule of thumb has always been that it's takes a third suit to truly get things totally right.  Just email Chan and let them know what the matter is along with a bunch of pics.  Anyone in the know and I am sure a layman can spot something wrong with it.  Maybe can't give the correct terminology or ideas on fixes but will know instantly that something is off even if they can't pinpoint it exactly.  I am sure Patrick will instantly see that the cut is way off.  

    Just slow it down a bit, all will be solved in due time. Some forum members need to cool it while others need to really put it on ice.
     
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    HitMan009 Senior member

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  3. marc237

    marc237 Senior member

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    (policy @ April 25 2005,13:57) Except that your "assistance" was completely speculative, based on nothing else but your own opinion, which seeing as your ties are carried by no major retailors, and you appear in no publications - is not valued by this consumer.
    This is an excellent point. I'm going to ignore all of the raves on this forum and not buy any Carlo Franco ties until I see them in GQ or on the racks at Men's Wearhouse. Only then will I feel comfortable that they are quality products. [​IMG]
    I was hoping they would be at my local TJ MAxx
     
  4. sirgarnetwolseley

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    My eyes. They burn. [​IMG]
     
  5. retronotmetro

    retronotmetro Senior member

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    I take it you haven't heard any good lawyer jokes lately.
     
  6. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Senior member

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    (LA Guy @ April 25 2005,14:20) A lawyer who bills $400 an hour is respected, while the fact that someone is trying to make do on 25K a year is despised.
    I take it you haven't heard any good lawyer jokes lately.
    On that note, I have to go to a meeting about Constitutional standing requirements [​IMG]
     
  7. Fritz

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    (Luc-Emmanuel @ April 25 2005,11:37) Well, maybe it's just because they are not PAID as much. Now, could you take all this political correctness bullshit somewhere else? bad wages = bad quality. period. luc
    Don't you have some Germans to surrender to?
    No, Luc-Emmanuel most certainly does not have to surrender to any Germans. In case you didn't know, Germany and France are allies now, there is even a thing that political experts call "EU". I hate to be a bore about this, but the fact that WW II is only 60 years ago (which is nothing in historical terms) and Germany and France have managed to become quite friendly for most of that time by now, is a miracle. It gives me hope that many things amiss in this world can be changed for the better, maybe even in our lifetimes. For those of you who wonder why I even bother responding to policy's post: I heart France, and I just wanted to make that point. Have a nice day everyone.
     
  8. gorgekko

    gorgekko Senior member

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    Jesus, they sure are expanding the definition of racist these days.

    Policy, here's another racist opinion for you: Japanese, at any price point, are incapable of making a beer as good as one from Canada.

    I don't have a dog in this fight -- to recycle a 2000ism -- but I would recommend that you (Policy) avoid the overheated rhetoric and language. You're in danger of becoming one of those members who decides to take on everyone and abruptly finds himself unable to post any longer.
     
  9. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    Fritz: I thought it was sort of funny that a guy who so easily gets in a lather over perceived racism himself does not hesitate to employ a (cheap, tired, unfunny) ethnic insult.
     
  10. norcaltransplant

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    What a week for J. I think this thread is averaging about a page an hour.
     
  11. RJman

    RJman Posse Member Dubiously Honored

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    I love it. It's like sartorial WWF.
     
  12. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    Seriously, though, it really should not be out of bounds for us to argue whether this or that country makes this or that product better or worse than some other country (as a general matter).  National and ethnic specialization in certain industries has been around since the dawn of human endeavor.  The intense specialization of (sometimes whole) communities for generations in a given craft is bound to lead to some great work.  And, in real life, it does.  That may mean that when you compare that work to the same work by some other community, on average, that second community may not appear to produce the same level of quality.

    We tend to talk a lot about the English and the Italians here because they have been making Western-style tailored clothing longer than anyone else, and are arguably the best at it (on average).  I imagine on a watch forum, people talk a lot about the Swiss.  Similarly, there are lots of crafts of which Asian cultures produce the finest examples.  I'm sure wherever those crafts are discussed, everyone is busy talking about Asian artisans.
     
  13. Fritz

    Fritz Senior member

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    Manton, you are right. And I am not angry about policy's post, because I know who it is coming from, and in which context. I still wanted to make my point, because friendships of any kind should not be taken for granted.

    EDIT: this was a response to Manton's 15.46 post. I agree with the 16.00 one as well
     
  14. zjpj83

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    "If I like their race, how can that be racist?"
     
  15. Patrick Bateman

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    (policy @ April 25 2005,16:57) OBVIOUSLY the majority opinion is that you cannot get the same quality at ANY price point, which is inherantly RACIST.
    Jesus, they sure are expanding the definition of racist these days. Policy, here's another racist opinion for you: Japanese, at any price point, are incapable of making a beer as good as one from Canada. I don't have a dog in this fight -- to recycle a 2000ism -- but I would recommend that you (Policy) avoid the overheated rhetoric and language. You're in danger of becoming one of those members who decides to take on everyone and abruptly finds himself unable to post any longer.
    I'll take a Sapporo over a Molson, any day. And happoshu is decidedly better than most "Western" light beers. The best beer brewed in Canada is the Kirin Lager and Kirin Ichiban they make for the North American market. [​IMG]
     

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