When I said 0.0001% of the population is going to recognize "those [boring] Margiela low-tops" I was attempting to criticize the people who do buy them to for brand recognition. Because, in my mind, the only reason to spend that much money on something only infinitesimally distinct from CPs (which are the plainest of the plain as far as I can think, and I don't have any hate for them either) would be for the brand, since there's no great element of visible "design" in this particular pair. So first you say people won't recognize MMM but then say that people buy them because they're MMM even though people won't be able to tell that they are MMM? You are saying CP is the most minimal but the achilles retail for $400+ now but you seem to have no problem with it when it is the most plain design out there. And you are saying you can't tell MMM GATs from CP's? I mean seriosuly, if you think the difference between CP and MMM GAT is very minute, then you need to get some glasses because they are two very different sneakers. I mean seriously, look again, you are really telling me there is very little difference between the styling in those two shoes? And then you say... N.B. design (to me) means visual interest or unconventional functionality. but.... I don't see the fuss over those MMM lows precisely because they lack any styling that could possibly -- yes, TO ME -- make them worth three hundred dollars (and that's the discounted Yoox price). And you say you're not into brand but picked a brand that has a huge "N" on every pair of shoe they ever produced as an example and call that interesting? All your arguments are conflicting with each other. One last time, I don't think the lows under discussion are godawful, hideously ugly, or low-quality. I just don't get the appeal of a sneaker with such minimal "styling" (your word) when it costs that much money, but again, if you love it for your own reasons, have at it. Look, these sneakers are luxury items, they are not meant to be a reasonable purchase. You do not want to talk about quality but can't accept that other like the shoes for it's style. Style is subjective, everyone has their own. You say "if you love it for your own reasons, have at it" and we were and that is what we have been telling you but you continue with your stupid theory that people only buy it for the name and brand.