Something about all patent lowtops just seem off to me, I feel like they should either be mids or highs. That said, those black patent cps look great, I've been looking for a mid version of those. I typically prefer mids/highs to help keep my stacks from getting sloppy, but achilles mids are a bit on the clunky side to work with the slimness of most of my jeans. I actually really like these lows though... I was originally looking for the mids but I picked these up basically for free. Glad I did now though.