Filson Bag Thread: With Pictures

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by LawrenceMD, Aug 14, 2009.

  1. GzStudio

    GzStudio Member

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    based on the leather and lack of lanyard, I would put it in the 90's. I believe the 257 is the only have one I have or have seen that has Talons and either the lanyard or no lanyard. I will have to check this out later tonight with the ones I have to verify. I know the 256 did not have a lanyard during it's Talon run and was added when they switched to YKK. I also believe the 258 is the only bag to always have the key clasp/lanyard from beginning to current. I have an awesome 258 Talon that has it and the original owner bought it in its infancy.
     


  2. OtterMeanGreen

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    LOL of course that isn't what I meant. When I say "nearly" it's because I made a hard-pressed decision not to buy. That actually is what prompted me to want to read this forum start to end, not an easy task. (at the time is was 421 pages worth). After reading I realized, that the MTB just wasn't what I was originally looking for and had its pitfalls (expressed mainly by @mgrennier). It flopped over when on your shoulder and when fully packed, took the shape of a box. However I was still on the fence because it certainly packed considerably well for a 5 night trip. With all the positive posts by @Soletrane for the 266 (there were many), the 266 (or 70266) seemed like the logical choice, as its much more versatile (but clearly carries less). That is a point many have made on here about Filson producing a bag that "almost" fits all of their needs.

    Glad you sold your 266, although the market for them is quite saturated (thanks in part to this tread........maybe)
     


  3. speedy611

    speedy611 Well-Known Member

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    Re tags - yes were made in black and brown.

    Re Cranes - not sure why they went quiet but I remembered them, having also read all 400+ pages of this thread. As a last ditch I emailed them looking for luggage tags- and they had some
    so I grabbed 2 brown ones. I guess quantities are very limited.
     


  4. OtterMeanGreen

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    Awesome I would certainly appreciate that (you checking). It would be nice just knowing that I have a 257 from the 90's (my favorite decade btw) instead of just assuming, which is what I've been doing as of late. The original 258 is what got me into Filson, I came across it in one of my older issues of Outside Magazine. In fact that was technically my first Filson (not the 24HR). I bought it from the Filson website and immediately realized it was way too big for what I had enlisted it for. I returned it and exchanged for my Otter Green 24HR (which was on back order). I did notice how impressive their customer service was as I didn't even have to pay for the return shipping.

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  5. OtterMeanGreen

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    I think i know why Cranes haven't been brought up in sometime.....it's because people finally caught on that Cranes is the place to go if you need a leather hand grip sewn on for your 256 :crackup:. I swear that was the most common question of this thread up to a certain point (as you would know also having read the thread in its entirety). What took second place was the quintessential question 256 or 257? I assume the reason we don't hear that question anymore is probably due to the 257 being discontinued.
     


  6. speedy611

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    Otter - I agree. I think too Cranes offered discounts when perhaps they weren't really meant to, and that drove some volume.
    I wonder why the 257 was discontinued? I've never seen one but on paper it looked a good proposition.
     


  7. thePNW

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    FYI, my local Filson store in the states happens to have one brown Filson luggage tag in stock. Not sure if other stores do, but wantedto alert folks if they're still looking for these luggage tags. Still on the hunt for a black one though.
     


  8. patrick_b

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    I have one of the old Filson padlocks but no key for it. I'd still like to find an Filson old lock & key combo.
     


  9. GzStudio

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    I have a bunch of the locks and keys. FYI, all locks from Filson use the same key.
     


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    Sell a set?
     


  11. GzStudio

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    @patrick_b are You looking for just 1 lock and key? Just let me know, I'm sure we can work something out...
     


  12. Cold Iron

    Cold Iron Senior member

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    I think the dates are pretty close.

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    The sportsman bag and fly rod case are YKK zippers, haven't checked all the others but ones I did are Filson. Timeline adds up.
     


  13. letsi

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    Gotta disagree respectfully with both esteemed filsonites here for the above points.

    Mines has YKK zippers, was made in 2004 with the factory tag on the inner pocket, had nicely reddish faded leather and no lanyards for keys in the front pockets.

    Granted, it could be due to it being a transitional model but it just goes to show how changes come so very gradually in the past and how this briefcase design is so enduring.
     


  14. GzStudio

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    No problems with that. Yes, the 256 received the lanyard during the ykk era. The first ykk 256's would have started in mid '02. At some point it was added, no idea exactly when.

    As far as the leather, it is all based on where it is located, usage, and that climate. I posted 4 of the same bags. A barely used one had beautiful reddish brown leather and one still had the original leather color. I do not know exactly what causes the exact changes, but since leather is a natural product, it all ages differently. Your bag is one of the lucky ones.

    OMG - I may be wrong on the 257 lanyard as I do not have any pictures or current inventory of any 257's with a lanyard and talons. I thought I had one or previously had one but cannot confirm. I'll keep an eye out on this.
     


  15. Soletrane

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    Thanks Letsi for the additional datapoint. My YKK is much later ca. 2009 so maybe I was too hasty in painting all YKK bag leather with the broad brush.

    I agree that temperature, climate, specific hides, etc can change how the leather ages as per GzStudio's post. In fact, my Talon duffle has the desirable aging on the straps and handles but not on the leather strap guides on the sides of the bag!

    But having said that, my gut tells me that the bridle leather - how it has processed - has changed over the years and affects the way in which it ages (putting aside the issue of quality differences between old and new for the moment). For example, I don't feel my Filson zipper bags' leather will lighten or age in the same way as the old Talon bags. If it does, I will see it first on my 2014 heavy tin tote which is my gym bag and gets the type of frequent use and handling, element exposure etc that ages and fades leather.

    I would be interested to see an example of a Filson zipper era bag with the bridle leather fading and the suede underside. They have been around a while now so if it was possible, there must be at least one example that experience the right mix of environmental exposure and use to create that look.
     
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