I agree completely. I played ice hockey for about 20 years and I could never tell by what someone looked like before getting into a fight. I've had my ass kicked by short unassuming, thinner guys and given some good beatings to 6'2" very intimidating players. One can't tell another's ability to fight by the way they look. I also boxed for about a year or so and the loudmouth, tattooed, I can't wait to kick your ass guys went out with a punch. I didn't get very far with boxing. I think it was the teacher. I am interested in learning the art of fighting and self defense, not because fighting is my favorite thing to do... The teacher just seemed to want me to go into the ring and just fight. I am much more comfortable when I know what I am doing. At least teach me what I am supposed to do, I am not one for getting thrown into the pool to learn to swim. Especially if someone is punching me in the meantime. Training for boxing was the best workout I've ever had. globetrotter I've never heard of the style you mentioned. I'll have to check it out... krav maga? california is the center for it in the US, with the best teachers. you will probrably love it, if you like boxing and hockey, you will love krav.