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faux tuscan

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by matadorpoeta, Dec 11, 2006.

  1. matadorpoeta

    matadorpoeta Senior member

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    is anyone else sick of all the faux tuscan construction going on? maybe it's only in california, but here it seems every other building going up is in this style. have all the architects lost their creativity? or does everyone in california wish they were in tuscany?
     
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    Faux-Tuscan is worthy of any hate speech; it is as false as you can get get without going into Tudor suburbia or "Beaux-Arts" starter castles.

    Especially offensive are those Napa Valley types and their "Tuscan villas" or some derivation of the Palladian style.
     
  3. matadorpoeta

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    the place where i get my oil changes is done in this style, as is the 'center' where i buy groceries. it's disgusting.

    the look used to be much more prevalent in orange county but it's creeping into l.a. more and more.
     
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    There is a car-wash/lube/gas station near me which is also Tuscan in flavor. Although honest to God(s), it tastes as well as a sugar-free donut.
     
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    Even more offensive are the ones that only have partial stone cladding, with exposed cement on the side of the building that is not facing the street. Who do they think they are fooling?
     
  6. matadorpoeta

    matadorpoeta Senior member

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    There is a car-wash/lube/gas station near me which is also Tuscan in flavor. Although honest to God(s), it tastes as well as a sugar-free donut.

    remember that "if you were a terrorist" thread we had? faux tuscan architecture would be on my hit list.
     
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    Faux-Tuscan is worthy of any hate speech; it is as false as you can get get without going into Tudor suburbia or "Beaux-Arts" starter castles.

    Especially offensive are those Napa Valley types and their "Tuscan villas" or some derivation of the Palladian style.


    I'm rather fond of the Tudor style in Sacramento. The faux Tuscan has to go though.
     
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    I don't disagree, but it seems that historical quotation is inevitable with architecture. It seems to be the norm rather than the exception.

    Even when you don't get historical quotation, and somone offers a bit of new "form" to architecture, people once again complain. I'm refering to the current dissention toward someone like Frank Gehry.


    It will be interesting to see as contemporary architectural forms break away from "the cube" if they will be accused of copying Gehry?
     
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    I hate all American-faux-houses.
    Imitates the Europe archtictures, it's sicken me quite a bit.
    Especially the Beverly Hills mansions, that is really Europe-stolen...
     
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    Faux-architectures are morally reprehensible.
     
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    What styles would you like the damn houses to be in? I mean in L.A. you have all sorts of styles of houses, from faux-Tuscan, to ultra-modern all-white and glass houses.

    Jon.
     
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    That's it, post and lintel construction only.
     
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    I want a house that looks like a gingerbread house. A garden of lollipops too.
     
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    I don't disagree, but it seems that historical quotation is inevitable with architecture. It seems to be the norm rather than the exception.

    Even when you don't get historical quotation, and somone offers a bit of new "form" to architecture, people once again complain. I'm refering to the current dissention toward someone like Frank Gehry.


    It will be interesting to see as contemporary architectural forms break away from "the cube" if they will be accused of copying Gehry?

    DP, do you get much of this down your way? Because what people are complaining about here in LA has as much to do with historical quotation in architecture as this [​IMG]
    does with sartorial historical quotation. What we're overrun with here is aggressively shoddy, cheap mini-mall quality construction in a faux Tuscan style. If it were just a matter of Tuscan architectural stylings being used out of context, that would be one thing. In LA, you can find examples of pretty much every architectural style used out of context, sometimes to good effect and sometimes not so much. But this is just a bad joke that won't stop. And its very ubiquity obliterates the possibility of it having the kind of tongue-in-cheek (or tongue-in-cheek, as we say at SF) kitschy appeal you might find in, say, a randomly-placed gaudi-inspired dripped-cement AM/PM or a Starbucks sporting a mural of the Sistine Chapel ceiling done in M&M's.
     
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    Yes, OKC, being central in the United States, we get a very eclectic mix of styles. Our weather and lack of distinct geography also means that no particular style tends to predominate. A days drive into Albaquerque and the equation changes -almost all adobe /Southwest style.
    It is a bit of a shock to see a Swiss chalet, or a tudor in some of the stately neighborhoods here in OKC, but part of me also likes it.

    As an aside -Thomas Jefferson had a vision for American architecture and it was informed by classicism and historical revival.
    Though not to everyone's taste, he did realize architecture's importance and wanted American culture to be a supreme example. To his credit, at least he attempted to bring architecture's importance to America's consciousness. Having said that...

    Fast forward a few hundred years - and it is sad that in America, these faux structures and ugly strip malls prevail. Jefferson would puke on the spot. It is sad to drive across the country and be greeted by the same chain restaurants and home improvement centers which substitute for a "downtown".

    America's Puritan roots placed little emphasis on architectural flamboyance. To spend more to create something more "appealing" or "appropraite" usually costed more -and was therefore not done.
    Perhaps more to your point -We collectively got exactly what we collectively asked /settled for -cheap.

    DP, do you get much of this down your way? Because what people are complaining about here in LA has as much to do with historical quotation in architecture as this [​IMG]
    does with sartorial historical quotation. What we're overrun with here is aggressively shoddy, cheap mini-mall quality construction in a faux Tuscan style. If it were just a matter of Tuscan architectural stylings being used out of context, that would be one thing. In LA, you can find examples of pretty much every architectural style used out of context, sometimes to good effect and sometimes not so much. But this is just a bad joke that won't stop. And its very ubiquity obliterates the possibility of it having the kind of tongue-in-cheek (or tongue-in-cheek, as we say at SF) kitschy appeal you might find in, say, a randomly-placed gaudi-inspired dripped-cement AM/PM or a Starbucks sporting a mural of the Sistine Chapel ceiling done in M&M's.
     

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