Fake Zegna suit sold for more than $400

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  1. mussel

    mussel Senior member

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    Check out this fake Zegna suit sold for $409. The buyer got what he deserved. I have no sympathy to anyone who don't do their homework.
     


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    For the edification of the novices on this board, how would one tell that this was a fake?
     


  3. alchimiste

    alchimiste Senior member

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    Canonical 15 % polyester.
     


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    Isn't it suspicious that the user id is kept private? I think the seller sold to himself (using another user name) to create a false market. I suspect this fake buyer will then give the seller glowing feedback.
     


  5. Lydia

    Lydia Senior member

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    It's location is Shanghai. You don't have to know about suits. These people aren't doing all that much to hide that it's fake.
     


  6. Matt

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    i dont know whether its real or fake, it'd probly fool me i guess, but i dont really read too much in to a shanghai location anymore. the way that the shanghainese are getting rich, if anything that makes it more likely to be real. now if it was from vietnam...then thats a different story (says the guy relaxing in his fake adidas sweats) heard a lot of stories about the designer shops in shanghai outselling their parisian sister stores as the new rich go om spending sprees. and if you want to see it in action, head to the LV section at galleries la fayette in paris and see if you can spot any customer in there who isnt speaking mandarin PS - why would a fake advertise that it has polyester in it? if i was making fakes id put 100% virgin merino stuff on the tag....
     


  7. alchimiste

    alchimiste Senior member

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    Are counterfeit and clueless mutually exclusive?
     


  8. MilanoStyle

    MilanoStyle Senior member

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    I hate everything about this suit. It tries to be so flashy without any elegancy. Zegna does not make suits like this.
     


  9. von Rothbart

    von Rothbart Senior member

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    I doubt it. Look at the bid history, the high bidder put in another last second bid as an anti-snipe measure. The buyer wanted this fake Zegna suit really really baaadd.

    And I am curious that the seller has 100% +ve feedback.
     


  10. Parker

    Parker Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    "how would one tell that this was a fake?"

    One giveaway is the wrong typeface they used for the EZ logo.
     


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    Everything about that suit says "counterfeit"-- from wool/poly blend to style to the label. Another clever Zegna counterfeit seller is from Germany... and suits ship directly from Italy. Knowing from feedback that they refund instantly when you catch them, I bought one and had it checked out. Totally bogus. The EZ label inside jacket looked good (not the newer label with the Z) but the inside pocket label was clearly a photocopy and typed at the bottom was "Ermenengildo Zegna Boutique". Seller of course denied it was fake but refunded credit card even before I returned it. Amazingly, the seller's feedback is glowing and I actually wrote to some buyers who believed that they got a genuine new Zegna for around $400. Seller claims these are Su Misura tailor's rejects.

    Ned Soltz
     


  12. gardel

    gardel Well-Known Member

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    I think part of the reason that buyer ID's are private in these questionable auctions is so that other people cannot send e-mail to warn the buyer.
     


  13. rootless

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    I do have some sympathy for the buyer. Don't people always complain that people don't even try these days? I loathe cheap clothing, but I can't afford nice stuff at retail prices (well, I could- I could get bespoke Kiton if my life depended on it, but I'd be living on rice and beans for a while after that). This is a guy who tried.

    First moral- don't buy from the East if you want to avoid counterfeits. I am generally unwilling to buy outside of the US for brands worth counterfeiting. (No offense to East Asians- I minored in Chinese- just that there is a huge counterfeit market there, and no enforcement- if anything counterfeiting is encouraged).

    Second Moral- have some idea of how what you're buying should look like. Be suspicious.
     


  14. Lydia

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    Just to clarify:

    I didn't mean to deny that there are plenty of people now in Shanghai who, quite proudly, wear the real thing. However, I have seen MANY fake zegna suits like that one. I would say that they are the most commonly faked suit here so far. The real Zegna has done a good job here and its outlets are in most of the main cities. I wish they would fake something a bit sportier like a dior homme suit. In suits, watch out for suspicious looking Zegna, Ferre, Armani, Burberry and Prada. Haven't seen others yet, but I expect to. Of course, you could get a fake Zegna suit here for well under 400 yuan.

    But it is strange that they would admit 15% polyester.
     


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