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Fake or Real (Authentic, Genuine, etc.) -- Official Authentication Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by ebmk3891, Nov 10, 2010.

  1. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    If there is a doubt, send it back for refund. The lack of tags is good enough reason.
     
  2. kobe1226

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    Okay, that's great news. I have a few more photos I'd like to post. Just to give everyone a better over all image of the tie. Also, the seller said this tie is one of the 2013 models but I have noticed that you mentioned that it has a older tag on it (the black tag is the newer of the two I'm assuming), do you think this is evidence that the seller is trying to pull a fast one?

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  3. SpooPoker

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    Dont know, but thats definitely not 2013.
     
  4. kobe1226

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    @GBR: I know, I feel the same way as you. The tie came in a plastic sleeve that said Kiton on it but that is by no means a tag. I'm probably going to contact the seller and tell them I want a return, but I know I would feel comfortable with the purchase if I knew that the tie was authentic.
     
  5. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Dude...do you like the tie or not? If you like it, keep it. If not, I guess you could use doubts about authenticity as an excuse to return,but I see no reason to believe it's fake, and base rates of kiton faking are pretty low afaik.
     
  6. kobe1226

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    @unbelragazzo: I appreciate your candor and honestly I do like the tie, however, I do not like the fact that the tie was marketed as a 2013 model and the tag on it is from the older models of the tie. To me that seems like a contradiction and b/c of that it makes me wonder if the item is authentic. The general consensus on SF seems to be that a 7 fold/ Kiton is hard to fake so I'll take that as truth.
     
  7. unbelragazzo

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    Ah I missed that it was marketed as a 2013. Still, if you like the tie, why does it even matter who made it?
     
  8. kobe1226

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    @unbelragazzo: It doen't necessarily matter to me who made it. At this point, what this is really about is the fact that in my mind (subjectively) I believed that I was buying a newer model Kiton tie. The seller advertised this tie as such and I'm fine with the fact that this tie is more than likely an authentic Kiton tie, but I'm not okay with someone advertising one thing and selling another regardless if it is real or not.

    Ex: If you were purchasing a used car and in the ad the car said that it belonged to an old lady and it was always maintained but then you find out that this same car (that you like) did actually belong to the old lady on paper but it was only driven by her 20 year old grandson, you would probably think differently about the creditability of the seller and there is a possibility you might have reservations about the car as well. For what it is worth, I have already contacted the seller. I will return the tie b/c real or not, I don't the sellers creditability anymore. Thanks for taking the time to help me figure this out. I truly appreciate everyone's insight and I consider this a lesson learned.
     
  9. MartiniGirl

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    Got to the party late! .... The white label was switched to the black label sometime in the 90's. Perhaps even 1990. I'm not 100% sure on this though. Granted that the person pulled a fast one on you for claiming it to be a 2013. But... shouldn't you have also known that it was older? Or even, maybe the seller was pretty dumb and didn't know it was older either. $125 for an older Kiton tie...? That's outrageous! You really should contact the seller claiming false advertisement. They got the 100% authenticity correct, but you're more concerned about it being claimed as a 2013 model instead of the fact that it was also claimed as "NWT"...??? To me, the NWT part and NOT receiving the tags on it sounds like fraud. You shouldn't be as upset about the "2013" line as you should about the "NWT" claim.

    Sorry if this sounds harsh, I don't mean it to be.... but you should do your research on things before dropping that amount of money on it.
     
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    Another 'authenticate this Burberry' question, again courtesy of eBay. These seem to be popping up pretty regularly, all from Japan, and all the same 10 or so models. I know Japan has the Blue/Black lines, but this is from something called the 'Burberry London for Japan' line, which I can't find any information about. Has anyone bought/know anything about this? Thanks.



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    eBay Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/BURBERRY-LO...%2FTMl%2BLbxqsSrqZy5c%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
     
  12. FidelCashflow

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    The hanging tags all look legit, but I've never seen a label like that sewn in the jacket - my guess is it's probably legit, but older before they started using the black font on white tags.
    I have a few of those belts, except in the Guccissima leather which I acquired directly from Gucci stores - the pics aren't great quality, but from what I can tell all the packaging looks pretty legit down to the clear sticker covering the belt buckle from scratches during shipping. That being said, I'm hesitant to buy Gucci online because some con artists invest lots of time in creating very convincing fakes. You can buy it - but you might never be 100% sure if its real. Some sellers will even do a bait and switch - they will take pics of the real deal and send you a fake.
    100% fake - the tags are a dead giveaway.
     
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  13. NotCreative

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    I recently received this belt and although it seems authentic to me, I wanted to make sure (And yes I am well aware it is tacky).

    Thanks in advance.


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  14. Steve Kane

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    I purchased this women's Gucci watch for next to nothing a resale shop a few months back. I figured it might be fake, but thought was worth taking the risk incase it paid off. I did some research on my own and I'm still not 100% sure. It's not a super blatant fake that says it was made in Japan like some (including another one I bought from the same store). Can anyone authenticate? Any help is appreciated.





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  15. MyOtherLife

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    Fake
     
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    I recently bought something with an Old Navy tag and it didn't disintegrate in the wash. I think its a fake.
     
  19. krischic

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    real or fake? vintage gianni versace tie:


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  20. krischic

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    ask the seller to send photos of the actual item (it does seem to come in that color) if they refuse. don't buy. also go through comments to see if any other customers bought the item and what they had to say about it.
     

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