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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by A Harris, Nov 5, 2004.

  1. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Andrew can speak for himself, but I believe that he has previously told me that Vass calls all full brogues, regardless of the last and regardless of whether they're bals or bluchers, Budapests. As bengal-stripe has written, this may be Vass's rhetorical flourish, but there it is.
     


  2. montecristo#4

    montecristo#4 Senior member

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    When are those "new styles" going to be available?
     


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    kabert Senior member

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    If the prices are not going to be increased (hopefully), then I think the Vass boots are about $100 more than regular shoes. So, I think that puts the boots at about $725 or $750.

    Regarding the U-last, I also have thought perhaps it was too severely pointy. The picture of the chukka boot doesn't look too pointy, though it has the U-last. But that may just be due to the side photography. I have seen Vass w/U-last in person, and they are definitely a "cut-above." They are very elegant both in the toe and in the waist/arch area. They are also the opposite of stodgy, and may be too pointy for some people. We'll see how the boots look....
     


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    Thracozaag Senior member

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    Yes, one thing about the Vass shoes is that pictures simply don't do them justice.

    koji
     


  5. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    When I visited Budapest in early 2003, they weren't selling it yet (though I did see a prototype) so, it's been around for 1-1.5 yrs .
    I believe it is meant to keep the back of the boot from chafing the back of your ankle while walking.
    They are on the U last. It's possible it is a newer, less severe version of the U, but I can't say for sure as I have not seen them in person yet. Â
    As the guys said, Vass uses "Budapest" as a name for their signature model, as well as a generic term for a wingtip shoe.
    The shoes are available at Louis Boston. On the U last, they carry a wingtip derby, a Norwegian laceup, and a Norwegian penny loafer similar to these: [​IMG] They also carry a burgandy penny loafer on the Peter last, a shell cordovan wingtip on the Banana last, and a black shell cordovan full boot with a rubber sole (think couture combat boot.) Prices run appx. $800-$1150, and just under 2K for the shell cordovan boot.
    As soon as we can convince stores to stock them.. It's a lot harder than you might imagine. They would rather sell RTW Lobb at the same price-point, even though Vass is a Lattanzi-quality shoe at a Lobb price. I understand why - shoes, like most of the clothing business, are still very much a name game. Louis in an exception to that rule - they prefer to pioneer new brands, as the Louis name is enough to sell whatever they stock. Also, if you are interested in special-orders, Gabor will be accompanying Darren Beaman for his US visits, and will be taking orders then.
    I ordered those boots with a double sole for that reason. It really balances the shape in my opinion, especially as they are a size 13.
    Thanks Koji. Very true.
     


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    AJL Senior member

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    (kabert @ 05 Nov. 2004, 06:52) Discount for board members??? Â I really like those chukka's too (the oxblood ones). Â In fact, I like them so much I'll be going to Sky Valet in DC tomorrow to ask about what their price would be to order a pair.
    I actually really like both chukkas. Â Very nice indeed.
    Agreed.
     


  7. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    When are those "new styles" going to be available?
    As soon as we can convince stores to stock them.. It's a lot harder than you might imagine. They would rather sell RTW Lobb at the same price-point, even though Vass is a Lattanzi-quality shoe at a Lobb price. I understand why - shoes, like most of the clothing business, are still very much a name game. Louis in an exception to that rule - they prefer to pioneer new brands, as the Louis name is enough to sell whatever they stock.
    I had a conversation with the shoe guy at my local Neiman Marcus about who his typical Lobb customer was. He said that he had a few who were shoe enthusiasts like me and a lot who had a lot of money and bought the brand name. It would probably be very difficult for him to convert the latter sort of Lobb customers into Vass customers because nobody except the shoe enthusiasts has ever heard of Vass. Edit: Oh, and I love all of the shoes, but my favorites are those high-lace cap-toe boots.
     


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    rjsphd Senior member

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    Andrew,

    Fantastic shoes, really fantastic. The 3 eyelit is great. Do they come in stock widths for us fat footed types?

    Bengal-Stripe: who makes the shoes in the picture you posted? Amazing
     


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    Have your guy call me, as per our last conversation.
     


  10. 9_Ball_Slim

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    I really like the oxblood wing tips....
     


  11. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    As soon as we can convince stores to stock them..
    Have your guy call me, as per our last conversation.
    Now, that's what I like to hear.
     


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    I checked out the Vass selection at Sky Valet in Washington, DC, this past weekend. I still think the U-last is a bit too pointy for me, but I may be convinced by Andrew that in a chukka boot the result is "perfection." (Intrerestingly, there was someone else in the shop asking about Vass on the U-last -- someone who visits here perhaps?) I ended up trying on about 6 or 7 different pairs of Vass, in different sizes, lasts and styles -- both boots (lace ups and chukkas) and lace up shoes. My favorite lasts are the P2 and R lasts given the shoes I tried on. These lasts are contemporary and make a very nice shoe. I wasn't able to try on the U-last as they didn't have any U-last sample shoes in my size. There are some lasts, such as the Banana and Peter last, that are a bit too "traditional" and heavy-looking for me. Too much like an old-school Alden wingtip style to me (on the Barrie last perhaps?). Ultimately, I fell for a shoe in the "R" last that resembles the Edward Green Dover. It's the kind of shoe that you'll want to pull off the shelf in your closet (when you're not wearing it) just to admire it -- it's that good looking. There's no picture of it on the Vass website, by the way (there may be a picture of the shoes, but it looks completely different as it's on a much more conservative last).

    I asked the gentlemen at Sky Valet whether they could ask Vass if the shoe style could be made as a boot (similar to what is done by Edward Green with the Dover and the Dover-boot derivative). We'll see -- they're checking. If not, I'll probably just end up getting the Dover-style shoe....

    For anyone in the DC area who hasn't been to Sky Valet, do yourself a favor, they are superb. A great place to buy Weston, Vass, Sargent, Yanko and Alden. Plus, it's where I take nearly all my shoes for repairs. They are also very knowledgeable about shoes generally, shoe repair, polishing, etc.
     


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    Maybe that was me asking about the U-last; alas, not to be: my foot is too darn wide for that beautiful last. :-/

    Did you happen to try anything made from the Budapest last? Thinking about ordering one of those in a wing tip (in black or oxblood)...

    Cheers,

    JV
     


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    A. Harris - Thanks for the pics of the beautiful shoes. What color is the new model monkstrap next to the 3-eyelet blucher? Burgundy? Bordeaux?
    kabert - I remember this coming up a while back. Was it ever confirmed that this is the New-Norweger as pictured on pg 22 of the catalog? EDIT: quick snapshot of pg 22 of Vass Catalog
     


  15. bengal-stripe

    bengal-stripe Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I'll be checking Vass shoes out, right at the source.
    Later today, I'll be off to Budapest for a few days.
     


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