As you are all aware, both Vaclav and Horace have been permanently banned. There was a security glitch in the forum (since fixed) that they had been taking advantage of (if you read their posts, they hint at having private information.) Horace lied about having unauthorized access to the moderator's forum (yes, one exists) to at least one moderator when confronted. If either Horace or Vaclav had any good will whatsoever, they would have alerted the moderators, and not used the information maliciously. I hope that this answers all your questions. Fok.