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Experiences with Crockett & Jones Handgrade?

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What do people think about these shoes?

I may be in Charleston soon and thought I may try a pair from Ben Silver. I guess I'm most curious about fit, durability and overall construction/style...any opinions or advice?

Are they still a decent value at $595?
 

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They're probably the best of the "mid level" brands (or what are considered mid level) on this forum. People will probably say they're readily available for much less, though.
 

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My sample size is small (three) but my C&J HGs compare very favourably to my Lobbs (two, non-Prestige) and EGs (one). I'm talking general comfort, fit, design and 'quality' (however one chooses to define it). All things being equal, I'd choose EGs before C&J HGs before Lobbs (my Lobbs anyway) but I couldn't justify the price differential.
 

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People will probably say they're readily available for much less, though.
Is Pediwear less money? The downside is sizing...I'm always concerned about UK sizing since I have bought UK shoes where the sizing has been very variable.

BS appears to offer a mixed bag of CJs. Yet all are listed as handgrades ???
Great question: Could it be due to different models from different years?
 

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Originally Posted by Artisan Fan
Is Pediwear less money? The downside is sizing...I'm always concerned about UK sizing since I have bought UK shoes where the sizing has been very variable.

My experience with C&J has been that they run true to size: US10D equals GB9 medium, but I can fit into them if they're half a size either way. (Sample size=3)
 

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Originally Posted by josepidal
They're probably the best of the "mid level" brands (or what are considered mid level) on this forum. People will probably say they're readily available for much less, though.

I'm 100% OK with it..I've about 100 shoes of different brandt and 5 or 6 C&J old of 5 to 7 years..All are just like NEW ...I bought just on the Handgrave production.
Best regards.

Georges
 

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Originally Posted by Artisan Fan
What do people think about these shoes?

I may be in Charleston soon and thought I may try a pair from Ben Silver. I guess I'm most curious about fit, durability and overall construction/style...any opinions or advice?

Are they still a decent value at $595?


I think C&Js are great shoes. I own and wear a large quantity of EG/Lobb/C&J and they're in my rotation as much as the other shoes are, and have held up just as well, and I love the aesthetics. Pediwear and Plal are a much more affordable way to get them, though.
 

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I'm thinking of getting a C&J 'Handgrade' - never had them before. Any good? Are they better than Edward Green? EG is obviously more expensive - £550 ish. Handgrade - £400.
 

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Originally Posted by Vox Populi
I'm thinking of getting a C&J 'Handgrade' - never had them before. Any good? Are they better than Edward Green? EG is obviously more expensive - £550 ish. Handgrade - £400.

Good? Yes.
Better than EG? No.
 

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Plal doesn't sell shoes via the Internet anymore. You have to go to Malaysia.

Originally Posted by Panzeraxe II
At $600, I would just cough up the extra cash and get the EGs or GGs. But if you order them from Plal at $400 then its a very solid deal
 

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Handgrades are noticeably better than benchgrade. And almost as good as eg and g&g. But not quite.

Originally Posted by Artisan Fan
What do people think about these shoes?

I may be in Charleston soon and thought I may try a pair from Ben Silver. I guess I'm most curious about fit, durability and overall construction/style...any opinions or advice?

Are they still a decent value at $595?
 

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Imo, handgrade C&J is awesome. The problem is the fact that the price keeps getting higher whereas the quality does not go up. At the moment, I'd say 600 USD is too much.
 

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I guess it's an impossible question to really answer unless, of course, you are in the trade. At the very top (EG, C&J 'H', Lobb) there can only be marginal differences, which are probably not noticable anyway. Actually, a C&J MTO 'H' is about £680 or so, which is considerably more than many RTW EGs! I am considering a MTO. Is it worth it? I don't know. Bear in mind that that's £280 more for a MTO, and I'd imagine exactly the same 'H' leather is used.
 

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