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Exchangeable/Convertible Button Sport Coat (Vox Related)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Superfluous, Dec 26, 2012.

  1. Superfluous

    Superfluous Senior member

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    Vox posted this picture with a caption about buttons that convert. I always thought that something like this would be possible and a good idea, but I had never seen it. Has anyone done this? Do you just put buttonholes (possible tighter) on the other button-side of the regular placement of buttonholes? It seems intriguing.


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    Link to Vox's site
     
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    Yeah, I assume they all work as a double-sided cuff link would work, or dress studs for that matter. A very cool idea that I will surely steal!
     
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    Actually comrade, I think the button idea has been reasonably unexplored in favour of discussion of pocket and cloth configuration.

    I genuinely believe that this format (two holes, one button) could make for a significant increase in versatility:

    I have a charcoal mohair suit that should be appropriate for almost anything, except I had light MoP buttons on it. If I could exchange these as I do my cuff links, I could utilise a dark grey horn for seruiois business meetings, black Caruso for funerals ect.

    For those if us who can commission no more than one or two suits per year the increased versatility can have a serious impact on choices. I for one am pleased that theOP highlighted the practice, even if it was discussed 4 years ago.
     
  5. Superfluous

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    After reading 13 pages of Vox's SwissArmySuit thread, which was quite strange, here is a summary of the suit he posted:

    "Ha! Well, many of you guys had your imaginations unleashed, but everything that you imagined was awful in conception. Truly.

    I made it quite obvious what my objectives were, but here is a recap.

    1. Something that could be used for travel but that would cut down on what needed to be packed. Exactly what the BlazerSuit accomplishes. But, I was going for a wider spread between formality and informality.

    2. The 13/14 oz fresco is a perfect traveling fabric. It resists wrinkling, and hangs out very well. Moreover, it's hopsack-y makeup is perfect for passing as a navy blazer.

    3. I'm not as temperatures sensitive as many are, and can wear a wide variety of fabrics year round. The buggy lining can take this jacket into the summer for me...and the vest can take it into the winter.

    4. With the vest, I have a bespoke-y looking suit that can be worn in social or work circumstances in which that is not an abrupt class challenge. I can even tuck the outpocket flaps in to make Mattypoo happy.

    5. Without the vest, the suit can be a bit more CBD, especially without my usual ticket pocket. More politically mainstream...more lapel pin.

    5. It's been a couple decades since I had a SB blazer with metal buttons. Now I have that, and I don't need to pack it seperately.

    6. All the different button combinations are enough, for me at least, to alter the character of the suit or jacket in interesting ways.

    The main construction challenge, which was not as simple as you might assume, was in keeping the precision of fit and avoiding buttons that flop around. There is also the issue of comfort in how the buttons are backed, and trying to maximize the durability of the transitional elements in daily use.

    That's my story and I'm sticking to it."
     
  6. bboysdontcryy

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    I have had a suit-blazer made up in a 11/12 oz Smith Finmeresco (navy, naturally). It has three sets of interchangeable buttons, one set of natural coloured horn buttons, one set of dark coloured horn buttons, and one set of gilt buttons. Front facing buttons are attached to a shirt button, that is buttoned onto the suit.

    I must add, however, that I've done this more for the novelty (like owning a James Bond suit if you will) rather than for versatility/functionality, though of course, traveling with it will make far more sense than lugging two suits in a bag.
     
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  7. Superfluous

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    What do you mean it fastens to your shirt?
     
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    A year and a half ago I asked a related question. After talking to my tailor, we decided not to go with this cuff style.
     
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    No. Suit button is hand shanked to a shirt button (substitute shirt button for smaller button). This way the hole at the back will be less visible.
     
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    How did he talk you out of it?
     
  11. Superfluous

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    Oh, haha.
     
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    There are a couple of reasons, each of which is minor, but collectively an unnecessary hassle for a marginal gain. I will have to do the same with the main buttons, and there are only very limited combinations (fabric color & texture, button color & type, jacket cut) that work. Due to my physique, slimmer cuts look best. With that as a preface, a slim jacket arm with double sided buttons will not accommodate the shirt's french-cuffs with cufflinks very well.
     
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    Yes, makes sense. I was doing it for the novelty, but if I were doing it for the functional aspect of having a suit that can be worn on all occasions, I might have not gone ahead. The Smith's cloth is quite versatile though.
     
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    As I recall the inner set of button holes on vox's swiss army suit cuffs were perpendicular to the outer set, thus stopping the buttons from moving about too much.
     
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