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Not to beat on another newbie, but in one breath you say that your shoe trees are "nice cedar ones," and in the same page you say they are "crap."
He used good trees.
I honestly think it is from the shoe being too long... Many people size down 1/2 size and up a width in the PA. I typically wear a 9D, but I take a 8.5E in the PA. A 9D width is fine for me, but it is too long.
Yes thank you. Shoe trees are quite expensive and when I got new shoes, I thought I could recoup my losses from my Park Avenues somewhat by removing the nice trees and replacing them with crappy ones.
You returned or sold the nice trees? Otherwise, how did you recoup your losses?