Eurotrip, Part Deux

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  1. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    Another not Brussels fan here.
     
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    SField Senior member

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    Brussels and Liege are two of the most depressing places I've been in Western europe.
     
  3. leftover_salmon

    leftover_salmon Senior member

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    Well, I'm going to Brugge or Brussels. I already heard enough of it in the first thread on Europe...so PLEASE give me good places to go in any of those cities...
     
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    [​IMG] ?
     
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    In Paris, Moissonnier @ 28 rue des Fosses-St.Bernard (near the Arab Institute) on the Left Bank is a well-priced & exceptional Lyonnaise restaurant; on the Right Bank, Le Petit Dakar @ 6 rue Elzevir (near the Musee Carnavalet) offers beautiful Senegalese food. I have found both to be affordable & memorable.
    "Le Petit Dakar" is fine and the neighborhood (Le Marais, old jewish area which is shared nowadays with the Chinese and the ghey) is one of the most distinctive zone in Paris. You should try "l'as du Falafel" there too. Since you may want to eat typical invigorating french cuisine. You should go to "D'chez eux", I advise you to fast the whole day before going there, :) (mÃ[​IMG]tro École Militaire) or Le moulin à vent (mÃ[​IMG]tro Jussieu), there is also the overhyped "la Tour d'Argent" nearby. EDIT: STFU with Brussels, and GO to Berlin!
     
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    I know you like to be contrarian whenever possible, and I can appreciate a balanced discussion. But seriously.... Brussels over Berlin? [​IMG] I'm certainly not a great Germanophile but Berlin has 100x more to offer than Brussels.
    I didn't say I would choose Brussels over Berlin, quite the opposite. But you would have to be a grade A moron to call Brussels hideous and then recommend Berlin as a better alternative aesthetically speaking. That's all. What's imbalanced in this conversation is the heaps of people shitting on a perfectly enjoyable small city that's fine to spend 1-2 days in. There's nothing you can do in Bruges that you can't do in Brussels (more grade A morons brainwashed by that awful Colin Farrell movie); in fact, there's less to do and it's all twice as expensive. I'd never live there, but the amount of whining from Americans who've spent all of a day in a city and deem themselves expert enough to declare it perennially worthless because it didn't have enough hookers and pot is mindboggling. And again, I'm a non-European who lives in Paris, which makes me neither a Belgian patriot, nor some small-town hick who was dazzled by the bright lights of the Belgian capital. I feel like I'm in some bizarro universe where I'm the only one trying to be objective.
     
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    I didn't say I would choose Brussels over Berlin, quite the opposite. But you would have to be a grade A moron to call Brussels hideous and then recommend Berlin as a better alternative aesthetically speaking. That's all.
    Well call me a grade A moron then. Berlin is far more interesting and aesthetically pleasing to me from an architectural point of view.
     
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    There's nothing you can do in Bruges that you can't do in Brussels (more grade A morons brainwashed by that awful Colin Farrell movie)
    Since I'm the only person who recommended Bruges, then I'm the the grade A moron brainwashed by that awful Colin Farrell movie. Unfortunately, I've never seen the movie, but have actually visited the cities mentioned.
     
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    That makes two of us z. [​IMG]
     
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    What's imbalanced in this conversation is the heaps of people shitting on a perfectly enjoyable small city that's fine to spend 1-2 days in. There's nothing you can do in Bruges that you can't do in Brussels (more grade A morons brainwashed by that awful Colin Farrell movie); in fact, there's less to do and it's all twice as expensive.

    I'd never live there, but the amount of whining from Americans who've spent all of a day in a city and deem themselves expert enough to declare it perennially worthless because it didn't have enough hookers and pot is mindboggling.

    And again, I'm a non-European who lives in Paris, which makes me neither a Belgian patriot, nor some small-town hick who was dazzled by the bright lights of the Belgian capital. I feel like I'm in some bizarro universe where I'm the only one trying to be objective.

    The derogatory comments toward Brussels were in the context of responses to a post soliciting recommendations for places to visit on a first-time trip to Europe. Would Brussels be on a list of top 20 European cities you would recommend to a complete newbie?
     
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    The derogatory comments toward Brussels were in the context of responses to a post soliciting recommendations for places to visit on a first-time trip to Europe. Would Brussels be on a list of top 20 European cities you would recommend to a complete newbie?

    Yeah, I love Belgium. Not for too long but its a nice place.
     
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    Would Brussels be on a list of top 20 European cities you would recommend to a complete newbie?

    Brussels would be in my top 2 if you were recommending a city to someone who is spending 10 days in Europe and intends to spend 5 of those days in Paris and 3 in Amsterdam. That leaves a day or two in between. The recommendations of Berlin, Spain, and the south of France are ridiculous. Yes, I've flown those discount Euro airlines. I know how easy it is to get around, but it doesn't make sense for someone with his itinerary.

    Go to Paris and Amsterdam and stop over at some city in the middle. You've got Brugge, Brussels, and a few cities in Holland.
     
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    Not to hijack the OPs thread, or butt in on the whole to Brussels or not to Brussels debate, but I need some advice and recommendations. It looks like I will be in Geneva for work at the end of May. I can squeeze out 9 days to roam around after I finish up my work in Geneva.

    So...where should I go? Quick look at the map tells me Paris, Milan, and Munich are the closest nearby large cities to Geneva. This is my first time to Europe, if that makes a difference. I would ideally like to check out two cities, and would ideally like to travel by train/bus/car. Thanks for any advice or recs.
     
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    Not to hijack the OPs thread, or butt in on the whole to Brussels or not to Brussels debate, but I need some advice and recommendations. It looks like I will be in Geneva for work at the end of May. I can squeeze out 9 days to roam around after I finish up my work in Geneva.

    So...where should I go? Quick look at the map tells me Paris, Milan, and Munich are the closest nearby large cities to Geneva. This is my first time to Europe, if that makes a difference. I would ideally like to check out two cities, and would ideally like to travel by train/bus/car. Thanks for any advice or recs.


    If you are trying to travel by train/bus/car and only want to do two cities, then you need to pick a general region and stick to it. For instance, I think it would be too annoying to travel to Paris and Rome, if you were not flying, but you could do Paris and Amsterdam.

    I really like Prague. You can combine that with a number of cities, including Berlin, Vienna, or Munich. I also really like Vienna, which you could combine with Budapest or Munich. If you did Munich and Vienna, you could stop in Salzburg for a day. You could do Munich and Berlin. You can do the lake regions on the Swiss/Italy border and then northern Italy. You could go deeper into Italy and do Florence and Rome.

    A lot of good options. Basically, if you stay south of Berlin, east of Paris, west of Budapest, and north of Rome, then I think that's reasonable distance to get to from Geneva. I'd just pick one direction N, S, E, or W of Geneva and stick to that general vicinity.
     
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    If you are trying to travel by train/bus/car and only want to do two cities, then you need to pick a general region and stick to it. For instance, I think it would be too annoying to travel to Paris and Rome, if you were not flying, but you could do Paris and Amsterdam.

    I really like Prague. You can combine that with a number of cities, including Berlin, Vienna, or Munich. I also really like Vienna, which you could combine with Budapest or Munich. If you did Munich and Vienna, you could stop in Salzburg for a day. You could do Munich and Berlin. You can do the lake regions on the Swiss/Italy border and then northern Italy. You could go deeper into Italy and do Florence and Rome.

    A lot of good options. Basically, if you stay south of Berlin, east of Paris, west of Budapest, and north of Rome, then I think that's reasonable distance to get to from Geneva. I'd just pick one direction N, S, E, or W of Geneva and stick to that general vicinity.


    Prague is really good and so was Vienna. Actually I don't think Paris and Rome is impossible, I went to Rome then took the overnight rail from Florence to Paris.
     

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