Esquire's Salary Based Suit Buying Guide

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Joffrey, Sep 25, 2012.

  1. MikeDT

    MikeDT Senior member

    Messages:
    4,276
    Likes Received:
    275
    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Location:
    China, Mongolia and UK
    Probably OK if you're young free and single, which presumably is Esquire's target readership. But if one has mortgages, rent, car payments, student loans, HP, credit card bills, alimony, school fees, medical bills, etc. that's another matter.
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2012
  2. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

    Messages:
    14,553
    Likes Received:
    2,281
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2009
    For those that are following along, Esquire recommends that you spend about 2 cents on suits for each dollar you earn. So much wisdom! The editorial board did an excellent job selecting suits to stick to this roughly linear relationship.

    Salary Suit Cost Percent of Pre-Tax Salary
    $30,000 $500 1.67% Kenneth Cole
    $50,000 $1,000 2.00% Abboud
    $70,000 $1,500 2.14% Hugo Boss diffusion
    $100,000 $2,000 2.00% Paul Smith diffusion
    $150,000 $3,000 2.00% Zegna mainline
    $250,000 $5,000 2.00% RLPL
    $500,000 $7,000 1.40% Attolini


    Also, it's important to note that one attains "Big Timer" status when one hits the $150k salary mark. At that point, you can start buying Zegna mainline. I myself have been able to make this leap, and haven't looked back since. Can't believe I started out as a scrub with a closet full of KC, Abboud, and Hugo Boss diffusion line suits!!!!

    Can't wait to hit $500k and purchase my first Attolini!!!!
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2012
  3. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

    Messages:
    14,553
    Likes Received:
    2,281
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2009
    I've created this handy chart:

    [​IMG]
     
  4. NewYorkIslander

    NewYorkIslander Affiliate Vendor

    Messages:
    9,918
    Likes Received:
    5,424
    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2008
    Location:
    Breuckelen, NY 11209
    

    Also don't forget this article is not going to be read by the typical "American" guy who buy Wrangler jeans cause he sees Brett Farve on TV telling him they're comfortable. Its really about priorities. I don't have to wear a suit to work, but I do. Its what I like, and what makes me happy, even when I was making les $ than I do now. I sacrifice, and while others who spend what I do on clothing may be able to drive an Audi, or a Porsche, I drive a Honda CRV (fucking hate it btw). We eat at home as a family (started because of my son's horrendous food allergies) so we don't spend a lot on that kind of entertainment, we don't go on many vacations, etc. While it may not jive with the rest of the Esquire lifestyle, at a 30K salary, their guide for buying suits for guys who care about buying suits, or place clothing higher on their priority list, is not far off at all. I know plenty of people who earn what I do who are baffled at how much I spend on clothes, but who wouldn't bat an eye at dropping $5k on a weekend in Atlantic City...the Esquire article won't be read by them...
     
  5. crashdummy

    crashdummy Active Member

    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    3
    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    holy shit this is amazing, needs to go on the front page for everyone to see!
     
  6. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Senior member

    Messages:
    27,426
    Likes Received:
    7,602
    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2009
    Location:
    NE PA
    

    Seriously, post this on the front page, it should answer everyone's questions forever. This board is officially done.
     
  7. GusW

    GusW Senior member Dubiously Honored

    Messages:
    19,145
    Likes Received:
    3,254
    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2007
    




    For those going through a divorce Esquire might want to suggest this option:


    [​IMG]
     
  8. suited

    suited Senior member

    Messages:
    6,461
    Likes Received:
    2,736
    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    The problem with this article is that it's written with no regard to idea that your profession, not your income, weighs more heavily on how much $ one would need to spend on suits. For simplicity, we need to assume that demand is driven by work requirements, and not style or choice, otherwise it would be impossible to categorize people and write the article in the first place. Most Americans that work in an office do not wear a suit, especially someone making 30k. Therefore, he has the option to, and he should, invest in 2 quality suits rather than buying a handful of 4-$500 suits. A man should not be spending more money on suits simply because he has more money, and he should not be buying cheap suits simply because he has less money (unless he is legitimately poor and desperately needs a suit). If you can afford a $500 suit, you can likely afford to save a little longer and buy a quality suit for just a few hundred dollars more, or you could thrift one. The whole piece is just a big pile of shit, really. There isn't a single applicable or helpful tidbit to be found. It is an advertisement, and a window through which readers can gawk at what others making more than them have access to, although I'm sure they consider it helpful to their readers on some level.
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2012
  9. EMLopez

    EMLopez Member

    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2012
    Ah I see. Wait wut? So we are supposed to use era "appropriate" labels when referring to an era? I'd hate to see you address a situation in antebellum U.S., if that's the case.
     
  10. MyOtherLife

    MyOtherLife Senior member

    Messages:
    6,501
    Likes Received:
    473
    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2009
    Location:
    The Arena - Centerfield
    :lurk:
     
  11. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

    Messages:
    33,834
    Likes Received:
    11,879
    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2002
    Location:
    Moscow, Idaho
    

    There's no problem with this article. The problem is that some of our readers are assuming that it's meant to be helpful advice. It's not. It's just an entertaining bit of faux voyeurism - like most lifestyle editorials. How many people read Monocle and say "Yeah, I am totally going to this deli in Stockholm," or do comparison shopping for yachts on the Robb Report?
     
  12. mcbrown

    mcbrown Senior member

    Messages:
    727
    Likes Received:
    143
    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2010
    

    Your wife practices Vedic Hinduism? That's fairly unusual among white people. And I didn't realize Vedic Hindus were prominently involved in WWI.
     
  13. RDiaz

    RDiaz Senior member

    Messages:
    2,668
    Likes Received:
    2,097
    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2011
    Location:
    Madrid
    Count me in (not by necessity though).
    But of course my wardrobe is mostly cheap...
     
  14. Balfour

    Balfour Senior member

    Messages:
    575
    Likes Received:
    143
    Joined:
    May 27, 2012
    Location:
    Mid-Atlantic
    Not sure how sensible this is, though? Will judges you need to buy about three to four bits of tailored clothing a year to cover wear and tear (I think that's slightly on the generous side, but perhaps right if your still in an expansionist phase and / or use lots of fine, delicate supers or summer fabrics). That means closer to 6 to 8% of pre-tax salary, which seems a lot to me given other clothing and shoes spending not to say living prudently, within your means and saving for retirement.
     
  15. suited

    suited Senior member

    Messages:
    6,461
    Likes Received:
    2,736
    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    

    Those mega yacht mags they sell at barnes and noble were the first thing that came to mind when reading the article.
     

Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by