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Equus Leather - Bridle Leather Belts - Official Affiliate Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Equus Leather, Aug 10, 2011.

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  1. Equus Leather

    Equus Leather Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    The polished buckle is a reject due to the flaw in the tounge but was used for photographic purposes - it wouldn't be used for an order. Hopefully illustrates the difference for nickel buckles though.

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    Excellent. Are the sizes for the quick release buckle limited to 1 1/4 inch because nothing larger can fit the buckle or would it be possible to get slightly wider (not quite as much as 1 1/2 but a bit closer to that) belts?
     
  3. Equus Leather

    Equus Leather Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Hi Kasakka,

    1 1/4" is it I'm afraid, thats the internal diameter of the buckle so we have to cut the strap no wider than that. Sorry!

    Charlie
     
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    Equus Leather Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Just a heads up for those still after a belt using the Bakers Australian Nut after the limited edition run sold out. We've got them on the website now - not limited edition but the same leather and craftsmanship and our usual selection of buckles and finishes. We've reduced the price a fraction to help those who now have to pay VAT so even bigger a saving for those outside Europe!

    For those who didn't see the original thread these are made using leather tanned at the last tannery in the UK to tan traditionally using Oak Bark. It takes somewhere between 12 and 24 months from the cow to finished leather and the end result is beautiful, flexible and long lived leather.

    The belt is here.

    A quick photo or two, though there are an awful lot on the forum that are probably better.

    An essay by the BBC about how the leather is tanned - this started the forum limited edition run and is very good. The chap pictured is Andrew Parr the owner.

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    Charlie

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  5. Liquidus

    Liquidus Senior member

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    I am very likely going to order a Baker belt and am in the process of deciding what options i would like. A couple of questions:

    Do you have a picture of a belt with a metal keeper and are they only available in brass? Is the purpose of a metal keeper purely aesthetic?

    Does the leather roller actually help prevent the belt from getting creased by the buckle?

    Is there any functional difference between a nickel or stainless steel buckle?

    Thanks!
     
  6. Equus Leather

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    I haven't any pictures of a metal keeper on a Bakers belt, I don't believe any of the last run had them. I'll attach a photo showing one on a Sedgwick belt though. They are only available in Brass or Sterling Silver at the moment. They are largely aesthetic although I suppose one could argue that they will last longer - a metal keeper has a lifespan of forever unless it has something very nasty happen to it whereas a leather keeper is organic and thus has a finite lifespan. That said we've never had a customer who needed a keeper replacing so I suspect the difference is rather academic in practice...

    Regarding the leather roller, it will help to a certain degree. Leather to leather is always kinder than metal to leather. On a brass buckle the leather roller would certainly help prevent the coloured mark brass can leave on leather over the decades.

    Functionally nickel and stainless will do exactly the same job. The nickel buckles have a stainless steel tounge which is the part of the buckle under greatest stress and both buckles should last until an archeologist digs them up and wonders why people would use such a low tech device. Nickle is much prettier than stainless and is available in the West End, which the stainless isn't andy the nickel lustier and finish is better, but stainless is far whiter than nickel and won't tarnish. Kind of horses for course, which probably doesn't help!

    The picture below is a sterling silver keeper - the brass version is just the same in shape but obviously no hallmarks!

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    Charlie
     
  7. Equus Leather

    Equus Leather Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Just a reminder for people - there is a discount coupon available for use at the start of the thread. Given we're at 10 pages I shall repost so its easier to find!

    StyleForum10% will unsurprisingly get you 10% of all of our products on the website. For non European customers the 20% VAT will be deducted as well when you create a user account and/or log in so you will shop at 30% below the inc VAT price on the website.

    Charlie
     
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    I'm definitely going to order a belt in Australian Nut here - matches a pair of shoes I have perfectly.

    I think I'm going with West End, but am undecided on the buckle color. What do you all think would work best in a business casual setting?

    I'm leaning towards 1 1/8 " belt + nickel, satin finished.
    The only thing I'm not sure if I like is that the tongue is stainless steel while the belt is nickel - so they are slightly different colors. Also, could that cause some corrosion problems over time?
     
  9. Equus Leather

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    Hi Zero,

    In a business casual setting I'd go for the nickel as well, it exactly what I wear for smart casual. The brass (IMHO) is a little bright unless your a gold coloured accessory person. The tounge of the nickel buckle is a slightly different colour and if thats an issue its one of the few things about the belt we can't change, but the contrast is quite pleasing to my eye and those that have bought them seem to like them. As much as anything the tounge really isn't that visible in use, but even when unbuckled I don't think its visually a problem. These things are very personal though and I understand everyones taste is different.

    Regarding corrosion, I understand where your coming from (I own a land rover made from aluminium and steel that suffers from galvanic corrosion). I've had these buckles on my own belts for years though and I haven't seen any problem.

    Hope this helps,

    Charlie
     
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    Thanks Charlie - I'm pretty sold on nickel at this point. For business casual, should I go with the shiny or the satin finish you think?

    Also, that picture you posted above with the two buckles - is that the nickel version?

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    If these are nickel, I'm having a hard time deciding. I generally prefer less flashy, but the satin finish on the left here looks a little too bland to me. Since you can see them in person, which do you think looks best for biz casual?
     
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    Hi Zero,

    Those are the nickel buckles. The satin is quite hard to photograph and I think looks a bit more special than the photo above represents. I like the satin personally, its quite a different look and is more contemporary/casual than a high polish is. Nickel is very lustrous so when its highly polished it is highly polished, much more so than something like stainless steel so perfect if you want a really high polish, but the satin is good for lower key or more casual looks maybe.

    HTH!

    Charlie
     
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    Equus Leather Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    A better photo of a satin finished nickel - might help. This is on a Bakers Australian Nut strap

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    A few photos of a watch strap commission for a member here. The holes will be punched when they have it fitted to the watch so they get the perfect fit. The racing holes are a modification of the design one normally sees with a lining of Bakers Australian Nut, I really like the contrast in colour and texture it gives. The strap is made from the lighter weight Sedgwick leather that our mid weight Lined and Raised uses. I hope this is the start of a new range for us - they are fun if very fiddly to work with!

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    Was pretty psyched until I read this. Any plans on getting wider (1 1/2") quick release buckles? In nickel?
     
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    Hi Tahonng,

    I'd love to, but sadly we can't get the buckle in 1 1/2" in any metal I'm afraid. The 1 1/4" is available in Pewter, but not Nickel. Theres only 1 quality UK source for the buckles so we can only make what we can get from them - very frustrating!

    Charlie
     
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    Hi All,

    Just to let you all know we're participating in another limited edition run, this time specifically for the Russet and Denim people. Mikecch is organising it and is the brain behind the belt and he's the chap you'll need to speak to if your interested in signing up, though of course I'm very happy to answer any questions. You can PM him here

    The belt is going to be made from c. 6mm Bakers Russet Oak Bark Tanned Bridle Leather - around 1 mm thicker than the last batch that we made. We can make it in this weight because of the extra flexibility the Bakers tanning process gives - 6mm in standard veg tan would be so wooden you could hardly bend it. The belt will have a solid brass square double sided military style buckle with 2 tounges. As with everything we do its entirely hand made and will stitched by hand with a heavy off white thread. Its quite a different style from our main line of products but given what I've seen of other russet belts on the market I think will probably be the best quality Russet jeans belt of this style available and I'd be amazed if it didn't last a lifetime.

    We're going to charge £65 + shipping (also + VAT if your in Europe). Mikes collecting names and we aim to start the run in Jan. It'll take 4 - 6 weeks from order to delivery as we are using only the very heaviest of the Bakers Russet output so the leather has to be specifically picked for us as its finished.

    The thread for the run is here any questions I'm sure Mike or I can help. I'll post photos of a prototype in a few days.

    Charlie
     
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    I just received my Baker belt today at work (conveniently on a day where I forgot my belt) and I could immediately tell that it was a step up in quality from my Trafalgar belts. It feels sturdier but at the same time softer and more supple. I definitely plan on ordering all my future belts from Equus Leather.
     
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    Glad you like it :) The Australian Nut Bakers is really rather special

    Charlie
     
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    Charlie,

    Although you do a great job of posting pictures here, and your enthusiasm for your products and business is infectious, it's still a bit nerve-wracking (at least for me) to make a decision sight-unseen, especially with respect to buckle finishes.

    I wondered whether you have considered making a "sample pack" available with a selection of loose buckles in different styles and finishes and a swatch of the leathers. Clearly this sample pack would have a cost (and a value to nervous customers) so in my view it would be appropriate to attach a price to it and if, due to the cost of the items within it, the price came out fairly high then you could take some of the sting away by offering a full or partial refund against a first product purchase if the sample pack is returned with all components intact and in a condition such that it can be shipped out to another customer.

    - Julian
     
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    Hi Julian,

    Its a good idea and we do partially do it already. We send samples of leather FOC to anyone who wants to see either the leather or the colours or both - leather's so difficult to photograph and touch and smell are as important as colour to a lot of people. We have sent buckles out to customers in the past to look at it, I'm a bit more hesitant about it though as we would have to charge for it and some of the buckles are a) hard for us to get so difficult to keep in stock and b) are quite expensive. I'll have to think about that bit - I like it because its good customer service but am a little wary of the complication of deposits etc.

    Do you want some leather samples?? Very happy to send you some if so..

    Charlie
     

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