^Does the new spirit of austerity in finance really preclude wearing a pair of red shell/python spectators? Kidding of course. But have you had a look at Carmina's web shop? They offer a number of straight forward styles in calf and shell. Of course you may be seeking to influnece EPs stock Carmina program. That would be the place for the most work friendly styles. I think you might even be able to special order a size if it isn't typical or you want to be sure to get ahold of a certain style. Mike can correct me if I'm wrong about this last point. Think it's a matter of letting your needs be known at the right point in the restock cycle. Seems UnreasonableMan beat me to the Carmina web example. Should learn to be more concise.