Epaulet shop - Official Affiliate thread

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by LA Guy, Apr 1, 2009.

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    oboy_oboy Senior member

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    I'm actually very curious about this. I wear a 32 Walt, and can wear a 32 Rivet comfortably, but they are a little snug in the seat. 33s are a little lose in the waist but work great otherwise--can take in, but depends on how motivated I am. The thighs on my 32 Rivets are great, but I would not want to go any smaller, esp in denim. I have a fair bit of experience w/ raw denim and the thigh is the one place where stretch is particularly hard to achieve. I'm curious about the thighs on the Wilshire, esp since to account for waist stretch, I could easily size down to a 31 (my normal raw denim size assuming the thigh measurement works for me).

    Def curious to hear people's opinon, as well as Mike's. I could order a couple sizes to try to, but I got (nice) new denim in Sept so I'm not in a rush for these. Excited about them though--they look like a great jean and one I'm hoping to be able to wear.
     
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    Maximus looking awesome!
     


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    MrClemson, bring Maximus to LA and we'll have a bulldog party at the Epaulet store!
     


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    I went TTS on the jeans. The description says they'll stretch so should be fine. I'm sure waist will be loose but I have a belt for that, and rest should break in.

    Ha I also went with the plum t shirt. Looks dope.

    Can't wait to get in on the rest of the line.
     


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    So...I know the description says "true to size" but I'll ignore that advice in typical internet fashion and ask whether measuring the waist of an existing pair of jeans (washed raw denim) is a good idea. :smarmy:

    Bring on the hoodie and the next wave of Carmina GMTOs!
     


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    fridayfrenzy Senior member

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    Epaulet, will you be able to special order the Wilshire jean in a larger size than what is available?
     


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    hot DAMN. The navy blue cap toe boots are bonkers. They're perfect [​IMG]

    But...wallet....Christmas....depleted..... [​IMG]
     


  8. Epaulet

    Epaulet Affiliate Vendor Affiliate Vendor

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    Thanks so much for all of your orders guys! The EPLA line is selling great this morning, and it's really exciting to see this after all of the work that we put into it! I think that you guys are going to be very happy with these items! All of the stock is currently in Santa Monica, so we'll be shipping every one of these early orders from here.

    I'll have all of the pieces on the Santa Monica floor by tomorrow (Saturday). They won't be in NYC for another 7 days or so, probably the week after next.


    Yes, measuring a pair of washed jeans at the waist is a good indication of your size in these. When I say true to size, I mean that most guys can purchase the same size that they take in the Rivet Chinos and Walts. If you RC/Walt size fits you on the bigger side when they're new, then you can most likely size down 1. It's not an exact science and people often have very specific ways that they want their jeans to fit (some like them very tight, some like them a bit looser), but that should work for most guys. We've had about a dozen customers try these on in person.


    Absolutely. Before we do the next run I'll do a call-out for extended sizes (we can do 26-27 or 37-42) and extra long inseams (40") for anyone who needs it.


    I'd say the 32's. I decided to one-wash the jean so that the shrinkage was removed. It won't get any smaller than the posted measurements, and you can expect that both the waist and the thighs will stretch a bit and mold to you. It's the nature of every denim. The correct fit on these is to feel a bit too snug in the beginning. But you should be able to button them up and sit in them without a lot of discomfort.


    I'm really glad that you asked this! Pardon my long-ass reply, but I put a lot of thought into where these t-shirts should be positioned.

    Before starting work on EPLA in August, I really didn't know much about t-shirts at all. It was a really interesting learning process. I knew that I wanted to position our t-shirts in the same way as our shirts and trousers. It should be a luxury item, and something that feels like a "treat" to wear. Epaulet is never the cheapest option - even held against other domestic brands - but it should be very competitive with other pieces of comparable quality and materials. And it needs to deliver the fit that we work to impart into everything. The garment should then speak for itself, and the branding and made in usa/made in europe is just a bonus.

    From here, the cost of your t-shirt is going to largely rest upon two things:

    1) Cost of the fabric
    2) Cost of manufacturing

    The fabric is the biggest point of differentiation between us and the lower price point, US-made options. I asked for the most expensive yarn that we could use which would not be too thin or "drapey." We settled on this US-knit 40's single fabric. It's a high thread count Pima cotton that's light weight and quite dense. Using an excellent yarn like this gives you a soft garment that also keeps it shape. The Japanese Pima that we use for our OCBD's is much the same.

    It's cheap to make something soft to the first touch. Just use a cheap lousy cotton and enzyme wash the hell out of it. This is the formula for American Apparel tees and J.Crew chinos. This is also why they tend to stretch and deform with wear, as the yarn itself is poor quality. Creating something that's soft and comfortable AND maintains its shape is more of a challenge. The fabric for such a garment costs almost 5x as much as thinner cottons with a lower thread count.

    So that's the main point. Manufacturing is the other. When you read discussion threads about opening price point tees, you'll often hear complaints about sizing inconsistency. Now, a little bit is normal for small-scale manufacturing. You've got people operating machines, all of the fabrics stretch, and different color dyes can actually yield slightly different levels of shrinkage after the wash. But it shouldn't be all over the place. Our manufacturer is one of the very best in LA, and one of the most expensive. But he guarantees an excellent level of consistency. You can absolutely make t-shirts cheaper here and there are plenty of lower-priced factories with less skilled operators and scattershot quality control. But we went with our guy because he was the best that I could find.

    Ultimately, I don't want to take over the world with relatively cheap t-shirts made in LA. I wanted to offer what I couldn't find myself: a truly luxurious item with a fair price and a perfect (for our Epaulet patterns) slim fit. We'll start with these solids, we'll introduce new colors, we'll do things like natural indigo dyes and slubby yarns, and I'm hoping to release a psychotically old-school pique t-shirt with a pocket as well.
     


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    Thank you for the wonderful response! That is exactly why I knew I needed to see and feel them before coming to any conclusions. After that answer, I absolutely need to see and feel them!
     


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    In for a pair of Wilshires and a white tee.
     


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    Let me know how it works for you - thigh looks a bit smaller than I was hoping for as well.


    FWIW, thighs are usually the absolute last place denim will stretch. "Size for thighs" has been my denim mantra after flipping a number of pricey pairs here on SF. I wouldn't size down for the waist's sake.
     


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    If I order a pair of jeans today, would they make it to San Diego by Christmas?
     


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    I completely agree with this mantra. Thighs get the least stretch and always seems to shrink a bit more than I would like on first soak...

    However, I find knee to be the second most important measurement. I am not suer tall and have small legs. So if there is too much material at the knee then the jeans never look right on me no matter the rest of the fit. I look forward to seeing some fit pics in the wild but 9" knee is too much for me. Sweet spot for me is 8.5 +/- .2
     


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    Here's the sample picture that was posted on Reddit with the flap down, not sure if anything changed (doesn't look like it)
    [​IMG]

    Also want to note:

    Order confirmation email at 3:15 PM EST
    Shipping confirmation email at 4:26 PM EST

    [​IMG]
     


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