ok, that's good to hear. But am I right in thinking the rise has been shortened by 0.5" across the board? The size 33 smith has a 10.75" rise in the measurement chart, while my smiths from the first run were 11.25". No, the rise is the same, I'm just using a different measurement technique. Originally, I was measuring the full rise - so that's the top of the waistband to the absolute bottom of the crotch - with the jeans laid flat. A lot of customers wanted to know the exact front and rear rise. If you look at the crotch seam of your jeans, there's a small square where the front & rear pieces meet. So the front rise is measured from this square to the front, the rear rise is measured from the square to the back. But overall, the Smith fit is identical to the first run, but with 1 inch less in the waist. So there's no more sizing down. The legs are a tiny bit bigger as you're not going down one size, but the difference is almost too subtle to notice.