Epaulet shop - Official Affiliate thread

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by LA Guy, Apr 1, 2009.

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    ok, that's good to hear. But am I right in thinking the rise has been shortened by 0.5" across the board? The size 33 smith has a 10.75" rise in the measurement chart, while my smiths from the first run were 11.25".

    No, the rise is the same, I'm just using a different measurement technique. Originally, I was measuring the full rise - so that's the top of the waistband to the absolute bottom of the crotch - with the jeans laid flat.

    A lot of customers wanted to know the exact front and rear rise. If you look at the crotch seam of your jeans, there's a small square where the front & rear pieces meet. So the front rise is measured from this square to the front, the rear rise is measured from the square to the back.

    But overall, the Smith fit is identical to the first run, but with 1 inch less in the waist. So there's no more sizing down. The legs are a tiny bit bigger as you're not going down one size, but the difference is almost too subtle to notice.
     
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    Ah, great. Thanks for clearing that up.
     
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    Hey Mike,

    Regarding the measurements on the Hoyts, for some reason I recall the initial sample size 34 to have a 13.5" measurement on the thigh, am I just remembering wrong? I might just be mixed up because of your mentioning you had 27" (!) thighs in one of your threads.

    Regardless I'll be placing an order soon. Just curious.
     
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    ^13.5" thighs are 27" when doubled...
     
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    ^13.5" thighs are 27" when doubled...

    lol, thanks brotha. but the thigh measurement on the website is listed as 12.5", so I was just clarifying that the measurements were correct.
     
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    I think the sizing charts for the Hoyt fit's are messed up in general.. They're the exact same as the slimmer fit. I noticed it earlier when I was looking at the trousers..
     
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    Mike-

    Any plans to restock the Gant Cotton Park or Gitman Vintage shirts?

    New Jeans look great. I sent you a PM w/ a quick question.
     
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    I think the sizing charts for the Hoyt fit's are messed up in general.. They're the exact same as the slimmer fit. I noticed it earlier when I was looking at the trousers..

    Huh?

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    I think the sizing charts for the Hoyt fit's are messed up in general.. They're the exact same as the slimmer fit. I noticed it earlier when I was looking at the trousers..
    The Trouser sizing chart for the Rudy was originally messed up, but it has been fixed for some time now. The Hoyt chart has been correct the entire time. There doesn't seem like much difference between the Hoyt and Smith (hoyt is only .25" larger in the thigh), but I assume there is more difference mid thigh (Smith probably tappers more aggressively).
     
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    Hey Mike,

    Regarding the measurements on the Hoyts, for some reason I recall the initial sample size 34 to have a 13.5" measurement on the thigh, am I just remembering wrong? I might just be mixed up because of your mentioning you had 27" (!) thighs in one of your threads.

    Regardless I'll be placing an order soon. Just curious.


    Hey John,

    Actually, it looks like I'm clocking in at around 26" on one leg and 26.25" on the other. Taking an actual thigh measurement doesn't directly relate to the jean thigh measurement though, as you'll measure a body part at the thickest point, but the jeans are 9" down from the waist. My legs are probably on the bigger side of most guys who would wear the Hoyt, but you can see in the fit pic that they're fitted but not super-tight.

    I think the sizing charts for the Hoyt fit's are messed up in general.. They're the exact same as the slimmer fit. I noticed it earlier when I was looking at the trousers..

    The Hoyt measurements are correct. There's a subtle difference in the thigh, but the difference in rise and waist pitch makes the legs significantly bigger than that 0.25" difference would lead to you believe.

    And yes, our Rudy pant measurements were incorrect the first day that we posted them, as I got a little cut n' paste punchy. A SF member alerted me to it, and they've been fixed.
     
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    Mike, get at me. Re: PM.
     
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    just received my creme double-faced shirt. does anyone else think that their shirt is darted a little too much? and the box pleat on the back + back darts combo might be a little strange-- the top half of the back of the shirt has a semi-parachute while the bottom half is pulled in quite closely.

    i'm also thinking about the shirt tail in the back-- it looks to be 2 inches longer than the front. if you're wearing a button-down shirt untucked, should the back tail be the same length as the front?

    i'm not sure how i feel about the shirt.
     
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    It totally depends what your physique is. I actually get them slightly altered even beyond the existing taper (no flare at the bottom - just straight down from the narrowest point). But then I have an athletic build and a big drop shoulders-waist.

    Different cuts suit different body types.
     
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    just received my creme double-faced shirt. does anyone else think that their shirt is darted a little too much? and the box pleat on the back + back darts combo might be a little strange-- the top half of the back of the shirt has a semi-parachute while the bottom half is pulled in quite closely.

    i'm also thinking about the shirt tail in the back-- it looks to be 2 inches longer than the front. if you're wearing a button-down shirt untucked, should the back tail be the same length as the front?

    i'm not sure how i feel about the shirt.


    I have the double-faced shirt in black and am quite happy with the fit. I'm 6'2'' and 175lbs with a 42'' chest and a 32'' waist. It is more or less impossible to find off-the-rack stuff that fits me, and the epaulet cut in XL is nearly perfect. The shirt fits my shoulders (which are kinda big from lifting) well and then tappers down to fit my waist well also.

    I do agree about the shirt tails, though. Only way the fit could be improved for me is shortening it by about 1-2in (I'll never be tucking this shirt in) and matching the front and back tail lengths. You're correct in that the back tail is longer by about 2 inches.

    I'm quite happy with the shirt and fit.
     
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    The darting is one of the reasons I sized up from a medium to a large after the SF flannel collab. The shirt fit fine in the shoulders and chest, but the darting created an odd silhouette because of my big hips/ass. The darting was much less pronounced on a large and it still fit well in the shoulders and chest, while maintaining a slimmer cut.

    As for the shirt tails, cold washing it is suppose to shrink them slightly. I'd give that a shot. If that doesn't suit your needs, just have a tailor shorten them a little bit.
     

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