Bought these back in late 2010 and have done one cold soak and worn them maybe ~10 times total. Ultimately decided the fit is not right for me and rather than have my tailor hack them up, I'm just going to resell them here. These have been discontinued for a long time now, but somehow this old link is still active: http://epsdenim.com/collection.html These are the indigo version. Button fly. Cone Mills White Oak selvedge fabric. Measurements: Waist aligned 14.5" Front rise 9.5" Rear rise 12" Thigh 10.75" Knee 8" Leg opening 7.25" Inseam 34" Price includes shipping to continental US.