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Entry level raw denim

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Antonio07, Jul 20, 2011.

  1. Antonio07

    Antonio07 Member

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    So I'm looking to buy my first pair of raw denim, since I want to see what all the fuss is about but I don't want to spend too much seeing as it's my first pair. My question is what are the best brand of jeans I can get, I'm looking to spend up to 100 dollars. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. mathwk

    mathwk Senior member

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    you can grab APCs when they're on sale for about that
     
  3. linds_15

    linds_15 Senior member

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    apcs rarely if ever go on sale, spend the extra 65$ and get some apcs though, you wont regret it
     
  4. Earnest Hemingway

    Earnest Hemingway Senior member

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    I honestly don't know why people keep recommending APC. Unless you're absolutely in love with the fit (which I was when they were still 155) they're overpriced. For 175, you get decent denim made in Tunisia :/
    You can get 3sixteen (Made in USA with Japanese denim) or Naked and Famous (Made in Canada with Japanese denim). You can find Naked and Famous for around $100 on the B&S new or slightly used if you look a little. If you live near an Urban Outfitters, you can get a pair of Unbranded jeans (Made in China with Japanese denim) for 80, 40 on sale. Bottom line, APC is no longer a good paid of "entry level raws" when there is so much more out there at around the same pricepoint or less.

    Also OP, next time you have a quick question go to one of these threads:

    I Have A Jean...(The Ultimate Jean Thread For Beginners) - Ask Questions Here.
    http://www.styleforum.net/forum/thr...-for-beginners-ask-questions-here#post_855610

    Ask A Question, Get An Answer - Ask All Quick Questions Here
    http://www.styleforum.net/forum/thr...wer-ask-all-quick-questions-here#post_2877154
     
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  5. mr chorizo

    mr chorizo Senior member

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    ^
    just had that conversation with someone yesterday; APC is definitely on the verge of pricing themselves out of their niche as affordable raw denim (now made in Macau, not tunesia FYI) and another company is DEFINITELY going to eat their lunch soon. Who it will be is unclear; I'm not really a fan of naked and famous and from what i can see on 3sixteen site the fits seem off (though I think the model isn't helping).

    that being said, i do love the fits and they look great on a range of types. they are the only jean that I can spot and identify from down the block. besides true religion, but that's for a whole different reason...
     
  6. flyguy7

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    I think there's a lot to be said for the cut of apc denim. Might be way off base, but I feel like I remember Heidi modeling the Dior 19s after being influenced by the new rescues. Regardless of where they're made I've always been happy with the quality.

    But my real reason for posting is to note that sw&d is filled with threads about cheap denim now. If it doesn't change soon I may retire my brief stay here
     
  7. Antonio07

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    Thanks to everyone for their help! I would have posted in the I have a jean thread but i've asked a question before and got no answer so I thought it might be better to start a new thread. Does anyone know where in what stores I could find a pair of apcs so I could try them on, I live in Chicago so I can go to a wide range of places.
     
  8. ice86x

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    try Penelope's in the Ukranian Village
     
  9. md2010

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    I have few pairs of nudie and g-star. I would say nudie jeans are good . They have teh wide varity of fits. but would be over $100. try getting them on sale. Or cheap monday they are under $100.
    And be careful with RAW denim. They will bleed. My raw denim runied few white shoes, few light coloured shirt sleves , my car letaher seats and my gf's LV bag. Goodluck
     
  10. lummers13

    lummers13 Well-Known Member

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    What ice86x said, I picked up my pair there too.

    And Haberdash, either the 607 N State St location or 1350 N Wells. They've got Edwins, 3Sixteen, Nudies and some other brands. They've often got sales going on. It wasn't uncommon that you could pick up a decent pair on sale for a little bit more $, or if you wanna scope out other brands after your first pair of raw. They're addictive. Too bad Chicago weather's scorching right now :(

    Tell them Chris sent you and they'll help you, good luck with the search!
     
  11. Bentech

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    Naked and Famous. One of my favorite brands, starts at $120 new.

    Look around in the classifieds, I just snagged a pair for $65.
     
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  12. Daseinflaw

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    I know most people may not agree with me here, but for an "entry" pair of raw denim, Levis isn't too bad. I've seen raw selvedge on sale for under 100. Granted, it's not the *best*, for your first pair it won't hurt.
     
  13. ConcernedParent

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    From my experience, none of the aforementioned brands (Unbranded/n&F, 3 sixteen, nudie) can beat APC's combination of quality, price and fit.

    I've been wearing raw denim for 4 years now, and I came back and bought my 4th pair of APC's after going through Dior, Flathead and Imperial.
     
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  14. Alfa159

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    A.P.C. denim I say stopped being good value appox. two years ago. Now for around same price you can get much better denim.

    read:

     
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    Oh yeah, when APC increased the price by $20, suddenly, overnight it became a poor value :sarcasm:.
     
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    Hmm. I thought the price increase was more substantial...
     
  17. Rompson

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    If you just want cheap raw jeans get Levis STF. Then get them tapered if you don't like how they fit. $40.
     
  18. Earnest Hemingway

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    Fit is subjective, obviously depending on one's body type. Quality on unbranded is pretty shit, but 3sixteen and n&f generally use much nicer denim than APC, and there are more options in terms of weight, slubbiness, weave, etc. Construction on n&f is slightly better, more so on 3sixteen (hidden rivets etc.). In fact, even unbranded has hidden rivets and coin pocket selvage. Overall, APC isn't worth it for 175 if you care about anything other than fit. Maybe you don't, but as I said, unless the APC fits work perfectly for you, pick up a pair of n&f deep indigos, indigos, or broken twills from tobi or revolve with a 15, 20, or 30% off code from retailmenot.

    APC was never that great "value" to begin with, but at that point it was really the only option for raw selvedge in the sub-200 range. Now that the price has gone up, and now that there are so many other options, it doesn't seem like that great of a deal. I don't see why people still seem to recommend it as the be-all and end-all of "entry level" selvedge denim.

    EDIT: the n&f left hand twills look pretty sweet
    http://blueowl.us/scripts/psp/VB_Bridge3.dll?VBPROG=\bin\shop.prodt.detail&SKU=7991700
     
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    I've yet to see fits of any of the brands mentioned that fit as well as a pair of properly sized apc ps. They pretty much always look good and you can get them all day for 100 or less slightly used.
     
  20. ConcernedParent

    ConcernedParent Senior member

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    NF, 3sixteen, Nudies, all of these brands have been out for atleast a couple of years... The reason why people still recommend APC is hardly because of scarcity of options, but because as I have reiterated previously, it offers a very compelling combination of desirable characteristics.

    Good construction on NF? Please lol. I haven't seen so many misfires on stitching from $100+ jeans . The only saving grace to NF is the fact that they are on sale constantly (and to some people, their collection of gimmick fabrics).

    Those that are trying to get into raw denim tend to want something basic, with no-irrelevant frills and they hardly are the kind that care about things like hidden rivets, coin pocket selvage, slubby denim, etc... In fact in the case of the latter two, it can detract from desirability (it does for me because I think that stuff looks silly). The denim nerds amongst us who like that kind of shit are better suited to spend some serious coin and getting the real deal (Japanese repro's).
     

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