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"english" styled suits hit the mall

retronotmetro

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I was just looking at the Banana Republic website and noticed that they have a new suit in done in stereotypical "English" style--double vents, hacking pockets, ticket pocket, peaked lapels. Â Check it out:
Hmm. Â Between H Hilfiger and Banana Republic, it looks like the mass market is going Anglophile. Â Banana Republic even "suggests" Chelsea-style boots to go with the suit. Â I suppose my English-styled suits will now be getting "nice suit--is that from Banana Republic?" comments. Not sure whether that's better than the current "nice suit--funny pockets" comments.
 

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well, i guess this is a good thing? maybe it heralds a return to more classic style sensibilities? or maybe not? what does it mean when the mass market appropriates an up-market style? (or is that even what is happening here...)

/andrew
 

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well, as long as it breathes new life into the traditions which (we feel) are timeless, it would seem to be a good thing.

actually it makes me think: how timeless is this stylistic ideal we talk about? the suit as we know it is, what, only about 100 years old...is change away from the 'traditional' form inevitable? are we destined to dress in star trek federation uniforms somewhere down the line?

/andrew - prefers the klingon styling anyway
 

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I'm in favour of anything, fashion trend or otherwise, that gets today's youth into hacking jackets. Perhaps we should begin work on resurrecting the hat. Imagine a world where it was alright to wear something on your head other than a baseball cap (a man can dream).
 

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last night on BART i sat behind (well he sat in front of me) a gentleman wearing a panama hat. actually it was more of a flat brim. but it had the center crease, which i thought made it look pretty jaunty.

/andrew - wonders how to wear a hat without getting hat-head.
 

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Actually, Fedoras and newsboy caps are pretty popular in  some circles these days.
Well, I mean acceptable in an unironic way. I am nowhere near pimptacular enough to wear a newsboys cap. I can just barely manage tweed breeches on the golf course. Although I am giving serious thought to an unironic trilby. I'll be in London in a month and perhaps I'll find something there.
 

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The thing that I don't like about this BR suit is that it tries to do EVERYTHING. Hacking pockets, double vent, peak(ed) lapel, even the ticket pocket. The pants are flat front, by the way. It's over the top. No to mention that I'm sure it still fits like a normal Banana Republic box.

That being said, I think BR is on a roll these days. Whoever they have doing their designs probably frequents this forum.

M#4
 

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I think that looks pretty darn sharp, actually. So do this season's dress shirts from BR. I agree that they're on to something. Several seasons ago BR was offering very nice black wool crepe suit separates that were an absolute steal on clearance. The same will probably happen to this new suit style, so keep your eyes open.

Jeff
 

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The thing that I don't like about this BR suit is that it tries to do EVERYTHING.
I think the hacking pockets are almost a necessity to balance the peaked-lapels on a single-breasted suit. And any suit with peaked lapels really demands side vents. Regardless of how nice it looks though, the suit is still probably of craptacular quality.

I'd like to see Banana Republic start selling optional waistcoats (and bowler hats) with their suit separates. Imagine your average downtown street populated with little imitation London Bankers instead of the ubiquitous hip-hopsters who currently occupy every street corner.
 

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...and that makes me imagine hip-hop co-opting bespoke english suitings.

i'm afraid to go much further...the mind reels...
 

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...and that makes me imagine hip-hop co-opting bespoke english suitings. i'm afraid to go much further...the mind reels...
Then you should be very afraid of this man and his clothing company:
 

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(faustian bargain @ 17 Aug. 2004, 5:22) ...and that makes me imagine hip-hop co-opting bespoke english suitings. i'm afraid to go much further...the mind reels...
Then you should be very afraid of this man and his clothing company:

Tacky.
 

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While I enjoy the fact that young people are starting to "dress up", IMO, there is too much money to be made from hip-hop inspired clothing. While most of us may not like the styles, designers are simply trying to get a piece of the action and so are venturing in with hopes of large profits.
The capitalist in me cannot blame them, regardless of what I may think of the clothing.

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