I’ll echo this on the painter pants. I have the navy pair and the cord fatigues from this season and would say that the painter pants are a bit more relaxed. I’m 6’1/185 and went with a medium and was really pleased with the fit. I would not size down. I’ve got a photo of both over in the show us how you thread if you want to compare them.That vest is sick. Go TTS on the painters. I can’t compare them to other pants this season because I haven’t tried anything else on.