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Emporio Armani suits

Debaser

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Now, I know the general rule is that a 52 Italian *should* equate to a 42 US, but I've found (and quite to my frustration, I might add), that a 52 in say, Prada for example does not fit correctly, and I have to move up to a 54. I have a 42" chest, so this is reasonably annoying.

I'm wondering if this will be universal to all Italian suits. I'm ordering an Emporio Armani suit from Yoox, and I'm not sure if I should order a 52 or a 54. Are these cut a bit more generously than Prada? Sure I can always return it, but I'd prefer a bit of guidance before I order.
 

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I'm wondering if this will be universal to all Italian suits
Absolutely not...and It sometimes depends on the particular model of the brand or the Drop. For example, drop 8 suit generally has more room on the chest and a wider shoulder/slimmer waist compare to a drop 6 suit.
 

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I will most likely order the 52 then, and simply return it if it doesn't fit correctly. The 52 is likely to be sold out before the 54 anyway, so this route makes the most sense. I appreciate your input.
 

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Emporio Armani is very slim around the shoulders and waist. I love their suits but they are quite slim and are not for everyone. If you have a 42" chest, the 52 is how Emporio Armani thinks a suit should fit you, which is much tighter than Hickey-Freeman, to say the least.
 

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I'm a 42R and had to get 54 (44R) in Emporio Armani. 52 is way too tight across the chest for me.
 

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If you have a 42" chest, the 52 is how Emporio Armani thinks a suit should fit you
Absolutley agree with what Brain SD has said. Kind of like you don't necessary buy a bigger size so that you can fit into a slim Dior suit.
 

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I do not know the particular fit of Emporio Armani suits.
One thing I know however is that a 52R corresponds to a 41R. 52 is a measurement in centimeters of half of the chest circumference. In order to convert to the size in inches (which measures the chest circumference), you need to multiply the measurement in centimeters by 2, i.e 104 cms. 104 cms are 41 inches.
Therefore if you do not want to be tight in the chest, I would suggest ordering a 54R (54 x 2 = 108cms. 108 cms are 42.5 inches).
Hope my post helps.
 

Debaser

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Can anyone verify what nerval has stated?

If this were true then why would all these size conversion charts be incorrect?
 

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it's almost perfectly true... but just like US sizing, it refers to the wearer's chest measurement and each manufacturer/designer then sizes the actual garment to how they feel it should fit that size. I have a 43-44" chest and a Zegna 54 fits me very well, but a Vestimenta 54 is slightly too small... 56 is better, and for saintandgrews (RLPL) a 54 is way too small and the 56 fits even better than the Zegna 54. So you really need to find what works for you from each line.
 

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This would be far easier if I didn't live in Kansas City (there's not a whole lot to offer around here).
 

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