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I think these are made by Crockett & Jones, not Edward Green.
 

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The seller is fraudulently representing the item with the Purple Label title and picture. They are nothing of the sort.
 

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I emailed him and he said "Yes they are Purple label...there was no room to put Edward Green in the title.....we have the purple box & the purple shoe bags that they came with."
 

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I don't get it...the inside of the shoes have the cursive-script Ralph Lauren, Made in England-- doesn't that mean they are purple label?
 

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I think these are OLD RL Purple Label -- made by C&J -- from a period just after the Purple Label designation was established by RL, but before RL shifted its shoes to Edward Green. From the early 90s maybe? The "Polo" on the sole is the giveaway IMO.
 

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How can they possibly be RLPL when the sole clearly indicates Polo? Regardless, they are nice.
 

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I think these are OLD RL Purple Label -- made by C&J -- from a period just after the Purple Label designation was established by RL, but before RL shifted its shoes to Edward Green. From the early 90s maybe? The "Polo" on the sole is the giveaway IMO.
So if they are C&J, the buy-it-now price makes them about $60 cheaper that the PLAL price for CJ handgrade monkstraps (the Savile) and about $20-30 more than CJ benchgrade (Grosvenor, Malvern, Chalfont). Not a great deal, even at the low-end price of $300.
 

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Aren't all polo/rlpl shoes marked with the US size and not the UK size? The five polo benchmades I have are marked in the same size (10.5D) as all of my American made shoes.....

As for purple label/polo - it should probably be listed as polo made to purple label standards or near purple label standards. The shoe almost definitely predates the creation of the purple label, and is probably of higher standards than today's polo benchmades.
 

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btw - check out item 3983869793 from the same seller - did C&J Handgrade ever make a stitched aloft sole?

Edit - I think I can make out a "240" after the 12 1/2 EE - is that a last number?
 

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C&J model. The construction is on par with the C&J stocked by Brooks Bros.--meaning channeled sole, mid-grade uppers, elastic "gore" attached to the monk buckle, etc.

The number 240 correctly refers to the last. Also used by the Brooks Bros. monk model. Not a deal at all for $300, considering you can buy a very similarly styled and construced model from BB for $283 during the sale with the obvious advantage of returns.
 

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They are Purple Label, despite the Polo mark on the sole. And they probably aren't that old, as there have been Purple Label/C&J models in recent years. The C&J wingtips are not Handgrade though.
 

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