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Edward Green Appreciation: Pictures, Info, and Where to Buy

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Harrydog, Mar 11, 2012.

  1. SuitedDx

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    So jealous... ignorance is bliss. If I don't know what they have, I will not be tempted to pick something up. :satisfied:
     
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    I was thinking about this a while ago. I believe that EG's standard is UK E. Most of my orders are placed directly through EG on Jermyn St, but I did buy a pair at Saks in NYC once. When shopping there, it surprised me that Saks seems to stock mostly D widths. When I bought my first pair via e-mail order, I had a back and forth with the EG sales manager, and he suggested that if I wanted a snug fitting shoe that would conform and stretch a little over time, I go with a D, otherwise for a looser fit, choose an E. I went with the D width on the 888, and it fit fine. Since then, I've gotten a E on the 202, as well as another 888 in an E. The E is certainly a bit more comfortable, but I don't really notice a huge difference between the two widths - both are wearable for me.
     
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    Depending on the last there are more widths than this, e.g. the 888 exists definitely in B-Width, C-Width, D-Width, E-Width and there might be more. Most of them you probably only get when you purchase MTO. For the 202 I have seen B-Width, C-Width, D-Width, E-Width in the London store - again there might be more widths available.

    My impression was that, contrary to other English makers like C&J, the widths correspond rather well to American widths (e.g. the EG B and C widths are similar to Allen Edmonds B and C widths).
     
  4. SuitedDx

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    Finding equivalence between UK vs. US width is always interesting...
     
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    I don't think there is a such thing as UK v. US widths. I could be wrong here, but I think that there are just C, D, E, F widths (and others) no matter where you buy their branded shoes. I know I am a solid D person and 90% of my EG's are in D's. E's in the same size still fit, but they are roomier.
     
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    US D width is UK E width.
     
  7. Burton

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    +1
     
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    Are you saying that UK E for EG is similar to other manufacturers' D width in the US. If so I guess that makes sense. If you are saying that EG makes an E for the UK market which is equivalent to an EG D they sell for the US market I don't think that is true. Retailers in the US sell both E's and D's as their stock/standard width.
     
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    US D (normal) width translates into UK E (normal) width.
     
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    I'm trying to understand what you are saying. I understand for John Lobb that their E width is equivalent to Allen Edmonds (and other US manufacturers) D width. All US retailers for John Lobb sell their RTW shoes in an E width - this makes sense because it is equivalent to a US D.

    For EG, however, some retailers sell a D (Leffot, Saks) while other sell a E (Leather Soul). if I buy a pair of Westministers stock from Leffot versus stock from Leather Soul I am getting a different width shoe, correct?
     
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    Not sure about Saks, but Leffot carry UK sizing according to their drop down tag. So if you buy Westminister in, say, 8.5/9E at Leffot or LS, you wiill be getting the same sized/width shoes.

    http://leffot.com/shop/edward-green-black-westminster/
     
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    I have seen Saks carry specific styles in E and others in D. Unfortunately, the SA really do not have any insight. I guess it is up to what the buyers combined with what EG rep recommends.
     
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    My understanding is that a D is a D and an E is an E regardless of where they are sold, . Different stores simply stock different widths as standard, and this can vary depending on the last. Some lasts are narrower than others, so the stores order E widths for those lasts.

    The Jermyn street store stocks E widths as standard because, according to Christopher the store manager, the English have wider feet than Americans. As noted above, different stores in the US stock different widths, so it's best to ask the store prior to purchasing. This becomes an issue when dealing with Brooks Brothers and Ralph Lauren, because many of the SAs don't know.
     
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    There is a difference between "corresponding rather well" (as I wrote) and "equivalence"
     
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    Based on experience or believe? Does at least not match my experience trying on several lasts in several widths in the EG store.
     
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    From what I have read, it does seem that an American D-width is a medium width, depending on the English shoe-marker a medium width can be E (Edward Green, Crockett & Jones) or F (Church's).

    However, this rule may not always apply.

    All my Edward Green branded shoes are an E-width and my only Purple Label shoes are also an E-width - two things must be noted; i. last shape could have affected width required and ii. this may only apply to EG shoes.
     
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    Maybe suede is more accomodating to stretching so an initial D (narrow) width will stretch out to the equivalent of an E (medium) width?
     
  20. Wes Bourne

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    This has been my experience as well.




    Correct, according to Hilary Freeman. I specifically asked about this during a trunk show a few years ago. At the time, she said that their E width being the standard in the UK (vs. a D for the US) has to do with the average foot being a bit wider there, as well as the fact that North Americans tend to prefer a snugger fit than the British.

    She added that a lot of EG's Japanese retailers order E width shoes because that's what their customers want, out of an odd desire to own EG's 'standard' UK width (as if that somehow made the shoes better or more authentic), while their feet would generally benefit from a D width.



    Not with EG.
     

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