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In NY this week and went on a “loafer mission” today. Hit Carmina, Alden Madison, The Armoury, C&J and Leffot. Tried several models in each store.

And OF COURSE the best fitting loafer (by a good margin) was also the most expensive (by far). EG’s Harrow from Leffot.

Can’t complain though!

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Unlined?
 

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In NY this week and went on a “loafer mission” today. Hit Carmina, Alden Madison, The Armoury, C&J and Leffot. Tried several models in each store.

And OF COURSE the best fitting loafer (by a good margin) was also the most expensive (by far). EG’s Harrow from Leffot.

Can’t complain though!

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Great choice. My Harrows are my most comfortable loafers, too.
 

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Hi Brains trust, can anyone tell me if there is any significance to the colour of the lining inside a pair of EG Galways? I've seen them with green and with brown and with red/pink. Is it just random or does it mean something?

Here's a red/pink version

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and these are green
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In NY this week and went on a “loafer mission” today. Hit Carmina, Alden Madison, The Armoury, C&J and Leffot. Tried several models in each store.

And OF COURSE the best fitting loafer (by a good margin) was also the most expensive (by far). EG’s Harrow from Leffot.

Can’t complain though!

Congrats, they look super nice! What size did you go with compared to your other EG of C&J shoes? Currently on the MTO fence about this exact model, the sizing is the only issue holding me back, so trying to gather as much intel as I can for me to calmly place my order.
 

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Hi Brains trust, can anyone tell me if there is any significance to the colour of the lining inside a pair of EG Galways? I've seen them with green and with brown and with red/pink. Is it just random or does it mean something?

Here's a red/pink version

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and these are green
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The green linings are a MTO option that you can choose when ordering your shoe at a trunk show or a dealer.
When you go the MTO route, there is a booklet of a bunch of different colored linings and you can choose the color you like. Most default to the green
 

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When you go the MTO route, there is a booklet of a bunch of different colored linings and you can choose the color you like. Most default to the green

Although I like some contrast lining, I would always opt for a natural leather one. It always looks good and is safer for the socks.
 

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Congrats, they look super nice! What size did you go with compared to your other EG of C&J shoes? Currently on the MTO fence about this exact model, the sizing is the only issue holding me back, so trying to gather as much intel as I can for me to calmly place my order.
Thanks!

For reference, I'm a 9 Brannock, between D and E (US width).

The Harrow's are 8.5/9E (US/UK). It's my first pair of EG's but at Leffot I also tried the Picadilly (184 last) and two Dovers (in 202 and 606 lasts). I'm the same size in all of them. I was actually surprised how little EG's lasts vary compared to Alden.

The Harrows felt slightly wider than the Picadilly at the forefoot / ball area. The Picadilly's were a bit more snug at the ball and under the strap. The salesman (Benjamin, super nice guy) confirmed this is usually the case. The difference is subtle, certainly not enough to require a change in size (for instance, going down a width in the Harrow). And it didn't impact heel slip for me - both loafers had very little.

I'm also a 8.5E (UK sizing) in C&J Boston and Harvard. Compared to Harrow and Picadilly, I get a bit more heel slip with the C&J's. I believe EG's lasts just fit my foot shape better. But otherwise sizing is the same - 8.5 UK in C&J and EG's feel the same size for me.

Hope that helps! Let us know what you decide.
 

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Each one has a different grade of tolerance: this would bother me, a loafer has to be just perfect, with no slippage at all for me.
True. Loafers are tricky. I absolutely hate the feeling of crammed toes, so I sacrifice a bit of heel slip for more toe freedom. The ideal loafer would offer good toe room and zero heel slip, but probably only bespoke would do that for me. EG's come close though.

With the EG's actually my heels never come off the shoes, they just move a few millimeters up and down inside them, and not on every step. I expect this to improve as the soles break in.
 

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True. Loafers are tricky. I absolutely hate the feeling of crammed toes, so I sacrifice a bit of heel slip for more toe freedom. The ideal loafer would offer good toe room and zero heel slip, but probably only bespoke would do that for me. EG's come close though.

With the EG's actually my heels never come off the shoes, they just move a few millimeters up and down inside them, and not on every step. I expect this to improve as the soles break in.
It should improve. If you want to speed the process, which I did with my newest pair. I hand flexed the sole a few times and it went away immediately
 

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Thanks!

For reference, I'm a 9 Brannock, between D and E (US width).

The Harrow's are 8.5/9E (US/UK). It's my first pair of EG's but at Leffot I also tried the Picadilly (184 last) and two Dovers (in 202 and 606 lasts). I'm the same size in all of them. I was actually surprised how little EG's lasts vary compared to Alden.

The Harrows felt slightly wider than the Picadilly at the forefoot / ball area. The Picadilly's were a bit more snug at the ball and under the strap. The salesman (Benjamin, super nice guy) confirmed this is usually the case. The difference is subtle, certainly not enough to require a change in size (for instance, going down a width in the Harrow). And it didn't impact heel slip for me - both loafers had very little.

I'm also a 8.5E (UK sizing) in C&J Boston and Harvard. Compared to Harrow and Picadilly, I get a bit more heel slip with the C&J's. I believe EG's lasts just fit my foot shape better. But otherwise sizing is the same - 8.5 UK in C&J and EG's feel the same size for me.

Hope that helps! Let us know what you decide.

Great info, thanks a lot! Interesting info on the Harrow vs. Picadilly, will certainly consider that.
 

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Although I like some contrast lining, I would always opt for a natural leather one. It always looks good and is safer for the socks.
The socks thing doesn’t really make sense in the end of the day since buying an unlined shoe like a pair of loafers or even the shaft of a boot like the Galways will bring them into contact with the dyed suede underside of the unlined leather anyways. People usually opt for the green lining on their boots as a souvenir for a MTO project, something special that you can’t get RTW.
 

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