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The Barksdale is basically a modified Winchelsea. This model was offered by RL off and on when they sold Edward Green shoes; it was most frequently available in Edwardian, as well as dark oak, black, and suede. The skin stitch is limited to the very tiptoe of the shoe vs the Winchelsea, which has a full skin stitch around the vamp, and the Winchelsea is a half strap. All of these variations on the theme are nice: Winchelsea, Sloane, Buxton, Harrow, etc. The 100 and 101 lasts are narrow. Enjoy your new shoes!
Thanks for the detailed history! Hearing that these lasts are narrow is music to my narrow, boney feet. How is the length of the 100 and 101? I'm a 10C(left)/9.5C(right) US, so sizing down to a 9.5D US is typically my best option with medium width shoes provided the toes have some elongation.

If these work out well, the Winchelsea in dark oak is my next pair, even it means going MTO. I love the piecrusting on the apron and heel counter. I feel like those details will patina even better with age. I would love a black pair of Pimlicos down the road for something a bit more formal.
 
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You will be happy with the length. The tricky part with this style is the potential tightness across the full strap. They are cool!
 

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You will be happy with the length. The tricky part with this style is the potential tightness across the full strap. They are cool!
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Genuinely as a guy who has to tongue pad even narrow width shoes, that sounds like another serious positive for me.
 

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The Barksdale is basically a modified Winchelsea. This model was offered by RL off and on when they sold Edward Green shoes; it was most frequently available in Edwardian, as well as dark oak, black, and suede. The skin stitch is limited to the very tiptoe of the shoe vs the Winchelsea, which has a full skin stitch around the vamp, and the Winchelsea is a half strap. All of these variations on the theme are nice: Winchelsea, Sloane, Buxton, Harrow, etc. The 100 and 101 lasts are narrow. Enjoy your new shoes!

Very interesting, thanks a lot! However, from my google research this morning it seems that the Montpellier and the Barksdale are still the only full strap loafers? It's the full strap design I'm after, but a (full) split toe would be icing on the cake.

Interesting info on the snugness of 100 and 101. I recently read that they would be much more accommodating do wide feet with high instep than the 184 - but maybe that's not the case? I don't own any EG loafers yet, so I'm quite keen on getting the fit right, especially when going MTO and in crup.

Thanks a lot!
 

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aubergine is British English for 'eggplant.' Shades of purple.
London grain is the stamping pattern on the leather.

Your boots look amazing and I'm jealous.

Appreciate both the compliment as well as the massively helpful info. Thanks.

The rare consecutive day EG post for me as it is a rainy day in Pittsburgh. Rain calls for my suede Harlow’s (on R1 I might add)………

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I mentioned yesterday how I thought it would be tough getting booted from an office but I’ve never had an office with such a glorious view of the city. Not at all a difficult transition…….
 

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Thanks to the wonderful advice of @mxgreen, these gorgeous NIB Edward Green for RLPL Barksdales are on their way to me:
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At an absolute steal and with a full 30 day return policy.

just remember that the RL EG models are made to U.S. 'C' width (not an issue if you have narrower feet). I bought a pair of RLxEG a few months ago, and had to get them stretched by my cobbler.
 

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just remember that the RL EG models are made to U.S. 'C' width (not an issue if you have narrower feet). I bought a pair of RLxEG a few months ago, and had to get them stretched by my cobbler.
Thanks for the heads-up, the seller told me the opposite that these are marked US D as in medium width. I specifically asked if the D was UK D (US C as you mention) or US D (ie. UK E width) since I know there was some confusion back in this thread about this issue.
 

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Thanks for the heads-up, the seller told me the opposite that these are marked US D as in medium width. I specifically asked if the D was UK D (US C as you mention) or US D (ie. UK E width) since I know there was some confusion back in this thread about this issue.

Yeah, it's a typical RL thing. Even their RL x Gaziano models were UK D/US C.

For their UK/European market, the shoes are standard UK E / US D.
 

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Thanks for the heads-up, the seller told me the opposite that these are marked US D as in medium width. I specifically asked if the D was UK D (US C as you mention) or US D (ie. UK E width) since I know there was some confusion back in this thread about this issue.

I would assume that they’re US C width. They have the typical UK/US dual size, last and width from EG on them.
 

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Yeah, it's a typical RL thing. Even their RL x Gaziano models were UK D/US C.

For their UK/European market, the shoes are standard UK E / US D.
EDIT: Also meant to quote @barutanseijin, but my phone doesn't like SF's advanced formatting options for some reason.

This just makes sad that RLPL no longer has EG and G&G make their shoes because not only have I always loved the models they made for them, but it sounds like their RTW offerings were the perfect fit for my feet!
 

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This just makes sad that RLPL no longer has EG and G&G make their shoes because not only have I always loved the models they made for them, but it sounds like their RTW offerings were the perfect fit for my feet!

EG still makes RL shoes:


 

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EG still makes RL shoes:


Interesting, neither of those links work for me in Canada. The RL webstore only shows the lesser Italian made models for me.
 

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And pro tip: They frequently end up at outlets for a fraction of the price. I picked up the above double monks from the RL outlet for ~$500.
Great to know. Sadly, the Ralph Lauren Outlet here in Canada sucks and usually only has lower end items and Factory Store only garbage.

There used to a nice Ralph Lauren Outlet just over the border from me in Michigan. Any chance I might still find Barksdale or other 100/101 last loafers there? Or are they too old a model? I would love a pair in Dark Oak.
 

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aubergine is British English for 'eggplant.' Shades of purple.
London grain is the stamping pattern on the leather.

Your boots look amazing and I'm jealous.
I was under the impression the texture of London grain was the natural outcome of the tanning process and dry tumbling, not embossing. Nevertheless I like the versatility that leather offers.
 

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