Edward Green Appreciation: Pictures, Info, and Where to Buy

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Harrydog, Mar 11, 2012.

  1. bengal-stripe

    bengal-stripe Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    A "run" is at least 6 pairs in the same style, same leather/colour, same sole and same last, but they can be of different sizes



    I would have presumed the wholesale prices to be slightly higher (maybe by GBP 25.00), so it is possible the list is a season or two old. Do not forget that the VAT of 20% will be added to all orders that go to anywhere within the European Union. Apart from that, the wholesale prices do not surprise me a great deal, a mark-up of 150% is very common in the higher end of fashion retailing.

    I agree, EG (or anyone for that matter) will not set up a wholesale account for someone (without a track record) who wants to put the occasional order through.
     
  2. SuitedDx

    SuitedDx Senior member

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    This might not amount to the recent ATM heist here in NYC but if this EG order is not true, it is a more creative way of getting some $. As much as we bemoan PayPal fees, this is one area where the protection may prove useful (not sure if they cover overseas transactions).

    At those prices, it would be easy enough to flip the other 5 pairs if you needed to get the same size really.
     
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    SuitedDx Senior member

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    BS, not sure if this has been discussed, but is there any specific difference between the all brown soles vs. the soles with the black dye (besides obviously the black dye)? I've seen both used on RTW lines, with the all brown soles used on the HAF & double leather. Is it just aesthetics?
     
  4. twinpeaks

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    The SAs in the Jermyn St store told me some time ago that there is no diff except for the coloring and from experience I have no reason to doubt it
     
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    smoothie1 Senior member

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    I agree with much of what has been said in this thread previously. I believe the price list is likely from one or more seasons (or years) ago. Furthermore, I sincerely doubt the possibility of non-retail entities receiving what appear to be wholesale prices outside of a one-off seasonal "factory" sale.

    That said, I would be interested in ordering several pairs at anything near these listed prices.

    As an aside, Edward Green is my favorite shoe brand. But I have been reluctant as of late to order more than one or two pairs per year from U.S. retailers at full price, and when I do it is for MTO or Top Drawer. This is because there seems to be available ready to wear stock at compelling discount prices through a variety of sources at any given time, whether it is a major retailer disposing inventory (e.g. Ralph Lauren), an independent retailer running a sale, eBay sellers flipping perfectly legitimate stock at reduced prices, or EG itself running a factory sale.

    I have not yet purchased a pair of ready to wear EG shoes at full retail price, and I have been wearing EGs for a decade. This is a very fragmented market where key retailers try to holdout for as long as possible to sell RTW inventory for full price.

    P.S. - Have you guys observed many people purchasing EG shoes from Brooks Brothers? I wonder how long it will be before Brooks once again includes EGs as part of their regular sales...

    Cheers.
     
  6. NAMOR

    NAMOR Senior member

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    Why the hell would eg sell their product to a collective of internet forum members and risk jeopardizing their relationships with their existing retail partners? Is it that easy to open an eg shop?
     
  7. jerrybrowne

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    +1. Seriously.
     
  8. ThinkDerm

    ThinkDerm Senior member

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    show your EG collection.
     
  9. bengal-stripe

    bengal-stripe Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    It is just an aesthetic choice.

    Traditionally in English bespoke shoemaking, black town shoes would have had a 'painted waist', while country-type shoes and 'casuals' (loafers) would have had a natural (stained) sole. But even that is not set in stone: John Lobb has always finished black shoes with an all-black sole, everything else natural.

    It might have been EG, who introduced painted waists into their previous top-drawer range (mid - late 80s), to give ready-to-wear shoes that bespoke look. This was subsequently extended to the standard range and other manufacturers (but not all) have followed suit.
     
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    Thanks for clarifying. Confirms my hypothesis.
     
  11. Crat

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    I'm the global mod. over at stijlforum.nl who was asked to organize this 'wholesale' project but, tbh, I'll leave it in the hands of the member who obtained the list.
    The member who obtained this price list was given it accidentally by an EG employee. He has contacted EG again though and does believe 'we' will be able to purchase at these prices (VAT not included).
    Personally I seriously doubt that EG will sell directly to customers at anywhere near these ex factory prices as they will be hurting their own business if they do.
    For now, I'm just going to look the cat out of the tree and see where the ship beaches.
     
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    Thanks for the info. If they do get a GO from EG, please let us know.
     
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    Curious, who does the payment go to? One of the members at the forum or EG?
     
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    JW, the member who obtained the price list, suggested that I organise this project in which case I'd probably receive the payments and take ordrs from members and then make the final payment to EG.
    Like I said though, I think something may be off and don't want to get too involved with this, not untill there is a little more clarity from EG.
     
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    If by john Lobb you are referring to JL Paris RTW that is not true. I have plenty of non-black JLP Prestige shoes with 'black sole'.
     

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