Edward green antiqued leather colors

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  1. Lynch Bages

    Lynch Bages Active Member

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    Does anyone know what shade of brown antique leather the RL/EG Cardiff (Whittaker) shoes that were sold on eBay are?

    I used to think the Chestnut was a really light shade of brown but the new catalog makes it much darker and with shades of red in the color. I am also confused as to the differences between the Edwardian and the Burnt Pine.

    It seems like every photo you look at makes the shoes look different given the flash that is used or other conditions.

    Since I have a pair of the RL/EG Cardiffs in brown, I thought it might be helpful to know which color they are (Edwardian/Chestnut/Burnt Pine). That way, I might be able to tell what the differences in the various colors are by using my shoe as a reference. Thanks for the advice.
     
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    Lynch Bages Active Member

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    I just put in an order for the Fawsley in Burnt Pine (they are in stock). Since I have the RL/EG Cardiff in brown, I am hoping that the Burnt Pine is a different shade than the RL/EG Cardiff. Can anyone confirm?
     
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    shoefan Senior member

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    Certainly it is in the shoes I own. The Cardiffs are a considerably lighter color than the burnt pine. I prefer the burnt pine myself, but the Cardiffs are still nice looking shoes.
     
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    bengal-stripe Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Acorn is a lightish golden tan. Edwardian  is what others call "London tan", a cognac colored darkish tan with quite a bit of orange in it. Burnt Pine  is a warm mid-brown - kind of milk chocolade. Chestnut  is a reddish mid-brown - think horse chestnuts. Burnt Oak  is a dark brown - bitter choclade. As all EG shoes get hand finished after the shoe has been made, there can be some differences between these colors. I have a pair of Chestnut which come out quite light in color and look more like Edwardian; but then I have another pair of Chestnut which look like real chestnuts.
     
  5. Lynch Bages

    Lynch Bages Active Member

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    Thank you Bengal Stripe.

    That was very helpful and provides me a good reference point. Burnt pine sounds like it is exactly what I am looking for in a brown shoe. It should make for a beautiful Fawsley.

    One more question, this one about lasts. Is it safe to say that the 606 is a fraction wider than the 202 in light of the soft quare toe of the 606? I have a pair of 606 that fit my foot like a second skin. I just bought a 202 and, while they fit, I notice that they are slightly tighter on the side of the foot where the shoe angles along the toes. I was thinking that it may be due to the round vs. square toe, which may provide just a little more room in the 606. I would think that going up a width (from D to E) would make for too wide a fit elsewhere and that I may just be better off buying the 606 than the 202. Thoughts???
     
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    shoefan Senior member

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    If the 606 fits you like a glove, why mess around with the 202? Here are some pics of a Fawsley in Black on the 606. Click on them for a bigger picture. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The Cardiffs on Bluefly were Edwardian Antique I believe.
     
  8. Lynch Bages

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    The only reason I went with the 202 is that they had the shoe (Malvern) in stock on that last and not in the 606. I did not want to have to special order and wait the three months for the Malvern.

    Having now worn the 606, 202 and 89, I can definitely say that the 606 is the best fit for my foot, with the 202 in second place (just the slightest hair narrow on my right foot -- but still the correct size as I think the E would be too wide).

    Although some may feel the 89 is more elegant given the additional length in the toe box, it fits me much wider than the 606 or 202.

    One of the best things about the EG shoes to me (and there are many) is how comfortable they can be when the fit is right, which is what I love about the 606.

    I will never buy another brand of RTW dress shoe again. The Fawsley should arrive next week -- I can't wait.
     
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    Lynch Bages> It's funny your conclusion is opposite to mine: F202 fits my rather wide and flat feet better than F606.
     
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    This is a very good point. My Edwardian Antique (where did they come up with that color name?) Dovers look like they're a completely different color from my Edwardian Antique Stowes, and both look very different from my Edwardian Antique Cardiffs. Oh, well. They're all beautiful in their own way. Has anyone ever seen EG shoes in Maple in person? I've seen a couple of pairs on eBay over the past few months, and it looks to be a very, very light tan, even lighter than Acorn. Very interesting...
     
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    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    What I've found is that the same last fits slightly differently depending on the shoe. For me, Dover is extremely comfortable when made up on 808E, but Stowe on 808E is a bit too narrow.
     
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    Uh oh. I wonder if the issue is that the Dover fits a little wider. Dover was my first EG shoe. It is on 606 D and fits great. The Malvern I just bought is on 202 D and is just a hair narrow on one foot. Given the comfort of the Dover on 606, I just ordered two more pair of EGs (the Fawsley and the Westminster) both on 606. Hopefully they will fit like my Dover but it sounds like they might be a little more narrow than I was hoping.

    Oh well, I guess I will know in three months.
     
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    This is exactly my experience as well. See my post above "Pics of my new shoes" for pictures of the EG Plymouth in Burnt Pine.

    Jeff
     
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    Is there a difference in antiqued or not-antiqued colors?

    I mean if I order a EG in Burgundy, Edwardian or Burnt Pine, is there a difference, and what difference from Burgundy Antiqued, Edwardian antiqued or Burnt Pine antiqued ?
     
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    Originally posted by Lynch Bages:
    Generally speaking, derbys tend to be slightly wider than oxfords even on the same last. I believe this has to do with the open lacing system of a derby versus a closed lacing system of an oxford. I think that you should have no problems in terms of fit with your two orders.
     

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