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Edward green / alan flusser models

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by oscarthewild, Jul 5, 2004.

  1. oscarthewild

    oscarthewild Senior member

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    Any ideas how much these went for? I have heard $1395 but that seems awfully steep.
     
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    Nick M Senior member

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    Manton,

    Is your pair a standard EG model, or did Flusser commission some special models?
     
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    I wonder how it differs from the 404, which EG bills as the "Transatlantic Peal shape" or something like that. From your description, it sounds similar.

    Aside from the last, is there anything unusual about the shoes? Patterns, finishing, sole treatment, etc.?
     
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    The shoe on p. 196 looks like EG's Buckingham model, and the one on p. 197 looks like EG's Atlee model: [​IMG] I've never seen either one in person, though. I rather doubt that they're the most high-volume of EG's models. Regardless, I'll have to check them out the next time I'm in New York. The last alone would make it worthwhile, and the possibility of new and interesting models, leathers, and finishing is just icing on the cake. Thanks for the description.
     
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    That actually sounds a lot like one of Cleverley's signature shoes. I've never seen that EG model in person, either, but that's the beauty of the Japanese shoe porn sites.
     
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    Jun Kuwana's do: [​IMG] Of course, given the fact that the toe medallion consists of his initials, it could easily be the case that he specified those details.
     
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    Well, Jun apparently has two or three of everything, so he has to have at least some burgundy shoes. I'd prefer something a bit darker, but I don't mind burgundy. I usually would opt for a species of brown, but variety is the spice of life.
     
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    This elasticated slip-on was old Mr Cleverley's favourite style. If he didn't invent it, at least he refined it and created numerous variations (one even with faux-laces). He believed it to be the shoe style to give the perfect fit.

    For those with the current Cleverley catalogue on hand, they feature versions with the V-cut and without. Without: page 2, picture 1, 6, 52. With V-cut: picture 14, 15, 41, 45, 76. (I'm afraid, I don't have a scanner; so all of you who haven't got a copy, will have to contact Cleverley, unless someone with a scanner and a catalogue can add the pictures.) They all feature the leather strips.

    Maybe T4phage can tell us, whether or not this style makes the ideal fitting shoe as he has at least one, maybe even more pairs of that side elasticated style.
     
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    EG has made an almost identical shoe for RLPL. In fact, I think at the London and New York stores they have them in crocodile - with strips on the gusset.
     
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    Probably superfluous at this stage but here's a picture the EG 'Kibworth', with cobination leather/elastic side gussets: [​IMG] Even the following 'Atlee' model's side gussets look different from Jun Kuwana's shoes, but it's hard to tell due to the size of the picture: [​IMG] Both pictures are from the following Japanese site. (As a side note check out the beautiful special order Newbury in Acorn Antique).
     
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    That actually sounds a lot like one of Cleverley's signature shoes.
    This elasticated slip-on was old Mr Cleverley's favourite style. If he didn't invent it, at least he refined it and created numerous variations (one even with faux-laces). He believed it to be the shoe style to give the perfect fit. For those with the current Cleverley catalogue on hand, they feature versions with the V-cut and without. Without: page 2, picture 1, 6, 52. With V-cut: picture 14, 15, 41, 45, 76. (I'm afraid, I don't have a scanner; so all of you who haven't got a copy, will have to contact Cleverley, unless someone with a scanner and a catalogue can add the pictures.) They all feature the leather strips. Maybe T4phage can tell us, whether or not this style makes the ideal fitting shoe as he has at least one, maybe even more pairs of that side elasticated style.
    Which current catalogue? Â The latest one I have from this year is a blue booklet with Mr. Cleverley on the front examining a perf captoe oxford. As for fit, I did not like any of the RTW side elastic that they had, the forefoot narrowed a bit too quickly for my little toe, and a half size bigger was too big. Now, as for bespoke, that is something else entirely. Â Mine fits like a glove, extremely comfortable and extremely elegant. Â I have the plain side elastics with an apron front (I now have 3 machine stitched - I find it a cleaner/sleeker look than the handsewns, and one handsewn - a bit more casual). I did not opt for the leather strips covering the elastic, I did not like the look, too busy. Â But from what I remember, the RTW's did have the leather strips.
     
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    That's the one. I suppose it will have to last for a few years.
    They don't publish them twice a year.
     

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