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Ebay jeans?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by raley, Sep 29, 2004.

  1. raley

    raley Senior Member

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    Has anyone tried buying jeans on ebay? There are some pretty decent deals for the likes of Diesel and D&G that I have seen, but most of the sellers are not from the US. The shipping is kind of expensive but the low prices make up for it in some cases. What do you guys think of something like http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....55&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....95&rd=1 Any other general tips for finding cheap designer jeans? Is it just the general Nieman Marcus/Marshall's etc while they are having their sales? Speaking of these sales, everyone mentions them, but are there any general guidelines for sales at the big stores, so I can know when to go check them out?
     


  2. VMan

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    Both are obscenely fake, unfortunately.

    The Diesel tags (not the label, but the cardboard tags) are totally wrong.

    The D&G's inside tag (the red one) is also all wrong. Also, the general styling is all wrong.

    Don't trust anything coming out of Turkey. Everything I've seen ( diesel, prada, D&G jeans and shirts) are all fake.
     


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    I'd guess as a first impression that both were fake. The Diesel pair has a store tag (the black and red one) that does not at all look like that of all the Diesel pairs I've seen in stores, and has none of the signature Diesel pocket designs on the rear pockets (it looks like --v-- or so on actual Diesels). There's a site called Fake Diesel which would be worth looking at and has more details. The D&G pair also looks off because of the excessive logoing... I don't think they would do the D & G thing on the side tabs of the pants. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think D&G uses red tags on the inside waist. General rule of thumb for me in buying jeans: avoid the more conspicuous, flashy labels (designers and brands like Diesel and Evisu) and stick to more lower-profile denim houses. Apparently the majority of Diesels on eBay are fake, but I don't think I've seen any obvious fakes of Paper Denim & Cloth, Rogan, or True Religion, for example.
     


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    Unless, of course, you get it from a reputable dealer. I know Hugo Boss has outsourced some of its clothing to a manufacturer in Turkey and I have a legit piece of clothing that says "Made in Turkey." If you find something like a Boss shirt on eBay that was made in Turkey it might be real. Might be.
     


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    You nailed it. I've become good at spotting fake Diesels on ebay, but when I checked out that fakediesel website, I was amazed at some of the detail that the fakes now have. Right down to the microtexting on the Diesel size tag. I've also heard similar things about Sevens on ebay. There are also many blatantly fake Gucci jeans. I wouldn't trust Diesel, Prada, Gucci, Energie, or D&G jeans on ebay, unless you've seen several pairs in person, in stores, and know exactly what to look for. For the record, I've never seen a fake pair of PDC, Joe's, Chip & Pepper, or any more obscure denim brand on ebay. I hope that doesn't change soon. BTW, your avitar is rowdy.
     


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    (VersaceMan @ 29 Sep. 2004, 8:46) Don't trust anything coming out of Turkey. Â Everything I've seen ( diesel, prada, D&G jeans and shirts) are all fake.
    Unless, of course, you get it from a reputable dealer. I know Hugo Boss has outsourced some of its clothing to a manufacturer in Turkey and I have a legit piece of clothing that says "Made in Turkey." If you find something like a Boss shirt on eBay that was made in Turkey it might be real. Might be.
    Let me rephrase that, then. I meant "do not trust any sellers that are based in Turkey, or most eastern European countries. There are too many factories there that produce knockoff goods." Buying things that were manufactured in Turkey is fine. I know Hugo Boss has some production there, as does Diesel (for their shirts and jackets), H&M, and many other mid- to low-level designers.
     


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    A Harris Distinguished Member Dubiously Honored

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    I've bought quite a few pairs of PDC on ebay, no fakes yet.
     


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    I'm too scared to buy jeans off of eBay.
     


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    Fake PDCs and Evisus abound in Bangkok - I've only seen the latter on eBay, however.
     


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    I've bought three pairs of Diesels, two pairs of PDCs, two pairs of Helmut Langs off eBay, and none of them are fake.

    howeverididbuyd&gsonetimeandtheywerefake.oops
     


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    one unrelated quick note. I believe the first seller is in Turkmenistan, not Turkey.
     


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    Wow, huge response here. Thanks a lot guys. I will have to look more towards PDC/some of the other brands you've mentioned that I haven't heard of. I am kind of an odd size so it is hard to find good stuff, seems like the more expensive brands have lots more options though for me.

    When you get into the more expensive ones, are their sizes more exact? I know for instance I have a few pairs of Abercrombie/American Eagle jeans that are 32/34 and are more like 34/34 when actually measured. My 31/34 gaps are actualls 33/34, etc. I need a true 32 and 33 inch length. Oh well, the search continues.
     


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    High end jeans-makers, with the exception of Diesel, only make one length for their jeans, and they tend to cut long to maximize the range of people who can wear them. Different models within a company can have different lengths (for instance, the PDC GTO cuts I've seen all had a ~32" inseam, while the ICN's tended to be as long as ~34"). This can be a pain, but obviously the inference is that someone who buys $180 jeans is willing to go to the trouble to spend the $15 and time required to get them hemmed.

    As far as waist and cut goes, it helps to try different brands out at your high end department stores, but if you can't do that, just ask the seller for approximate measurements, and go by those.
     


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    My wife gets fake Diesel jeans and other items shipped from China on a regular basis. Counterfeits of almost everything are available in China. Some items are still decent quality while others are crap. I have a couple of RL polos that have held up well and a Boss topcoat that is horrible. I worry about items on ebay such as all the new Thomas Pink shirts, especially when available in bulk lots.
     


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    Filene's Basement, Marshalls, TJ Maxx, Loehmanns, all these will have high end denim at one time or another, selling at about 50% or lower of retail. I usually trust these sources, especially for American brands (Paper Denim, Chip and Pepper, Seven, etc...) which have lots of details and difficult to duplicate washes, although I've seen some Diesels in one of the above stores that I was nearly certain were fakes.
     


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