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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by davesmith, Feb 21, 2012.

  1. Mr. Six

    Mr. Six Distinguished Member

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    I have 3 and 5-fold ties from Cappelli. The 3-folds are made with his heavier interlining, the 5-folds the lighter interlining. I was thinking about trying a 3-fold with the lighter interlining but wondered if it would result in too insubstantial a knot. Anyone have experience with Cappelli's 3-fold silk ties with light interlining? Maybe @jrd617 ?
     


  2. jrd617

    jrd617 Stylish Dinosaur

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    @Mr. Six

    All of my Capp's are the standard 3-fold. Their default interlining is already quite soft compared to Hober's so no need to switch it out for something even lighter. paging @Claghorn
     


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  4. Mr. Six

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    Hmmm. I find Hober's interlining for 3-folds to be thinner and softer than the Cappellis I have. Interesting that your experience is the opposite, jrd.

    What about you, Cleav?

    Thanks to you both!
     


  5. jrd617

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    my cappelli grens definitely feels thinner than the hober gren I used to own (sold on B&S(
     


  6. jrd617

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    Something also can be said of the width of the fabric at the knotting area on the Capps vs the Hobers.

    The Hobers have a wider piece of cloth at the knotting area, making for a thicker knot.
     


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    Cleav Stylish Dinosaur Dubiously Honored Moderator

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    It may be me but I prefer the EGC knot to most :)
     


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    I wish to be associated with the words of the speaker above :nodding:
     


  9. Mr. Six

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    I don't find that much difference between the width of the ties between Hober and Cappelli, at least where I usually knot them (and of course, I gave them both the same dimensions for the custom ones--a couple of the Cappellis I bought retail). Pics for comparison.

    Hober grenadine (3-fold)
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    Capelli twill (3-fold)
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    Cappelli twill (5-fold, retail)
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    Hober mac (3-fold)
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    The knot size is also dependent on how taught you pull it...

    I have some Cappelli lightly lined untipped 3 folds that are pretty awesome...
     


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    Love my Cappellis. Haven't tried Vanda in anything but a wintery wool/silk grenadine, and have high expectations for the neat silks, but so far, Cappellis are my favorite ties by far.
     


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    I, too, am interested in the unlined option:

    (1) does anyone know how big a difference there is between lined and unlined knot size in a standard 3-fold (I realize, of course, that the fabric is the chief determinant, but I’m trying to get some sense of the contribution of the lining in Cappelli’s case);

    (2) does anyone know why Cappelli charges €20 extra for unlined? Is it merely because there’s not as much demand for them and therefore it’s essentially a custom option? Just curious.

    I have a narrow neck (ca. 15”) so I need to be careful about knot sizes becoming disproportionate, which even with my usual FIH can happen.

    Thanks.

    Cheers,

    Ac
     


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    What Cappelli calls "unlined" is actually "untipped, handrolled". The extra 20 is for handrolling.

    You can actually ask Patrizio for lighter lining, which is especially nice with 5 or 7 folds. It does not affect the knot site very much. You can pull tighter if you want, but you can also easily get your regular knot size.

    I do not think that a completely unlined tie, even as a 7 fold, would be a good idea, except for some very stiff silks.
     


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