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Duty free cigars

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Histrion, Jul 24, 2006.

  1. odoreater

    odoreater Senior member

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    Somebody I trust offered me a box of genuine Cuban cigars purchased in Cuba for $200. I turned the offer down. I'm wondering if I made a mistake.
     
  2. Histrion

    Histrion Senior member

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    Well, under these circumstances (i.e.: it being a fair price for genuine cigars), there's only one question to be asked: was it worth that price to you and the appreciation you have for it?
     
  3. odoreater

    odoreater Senior member

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    Well, under these circumstances (i.e.: it being a fair price for genuine cigars), there's only one question to be asked: was it worth that price to you and the appreciation you have for it?

    Well, not to me personally. I don't smoke cigars and generally don't approve of the practice. But, I think I could have made a profit on them.
     
  4. dkzzzz

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    Well, not to me personally. I don't smoke cigars and generally don't approve of the practice. But, I think I could have made a profit on them.

    I think you did a right thing since you know nothing of cigars or cigar market.

    As for duty free cigars:
    Buy them in any Duty free walk-in humidor at the Frankfurt, London, Barcelona, Geneva etc airports.
    If you on adventurous streak you can order Cuban cigars from Hong-Kong or Canary Islands and hope that customs would not detain the box. If they don't catch your box you will get Cuban cigars cheaper than Dominican.

    As far as brands Dominicans have US only to sell their brands with Cuban names. The rest of the world would not allow this travesty. Just shows you how political US is, allowing this travesty to happen.

    Cuban cigars are the best. You just need to know which one to buy and how to age them. Just like with wine there are better years and worse.

    I am currently enjoying Monte N1, Partagas Series D N4, Bolivar Royal Corona, Cohiba Robustos all in my automatic humidor.
     
  5. whodini

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    Cuban cigars are the best. You just need to know which one to buy and how to age them. Just like with wine there are better years and worse.



    To each their own but you'd better throw out a disclaimer with a statement like that. Cuban consistency/quality has greatly gone down in the last 20 some-odd years while the myth and lure has remained steady.

    What's better than a cigar? An "off-limits" cigar.

    Everyone has their own taste preferences and I'm not saying that you don't know your stuff, but "Cuban" doesn't denote quality, it denotes country. And just like wine, one can't say that French is better than American simply because of France's well-established wine tradition.

    You look at any cigar magazine such as Cigar Afficionado, Smoke, etc. and you'll note that countries such as DR and Nicaragua consistently score better than Cubans while being at times half the cost and claiming a wider variety of shapes and flavors.

    I tend to smoke Cuban R&J's when I'm out of the US not really out of preference (although I can't complain about the taste) but because of a lack of availability of other brands/countries which I attribute to living in a tourist-centric environment that buys into Cuba's myth.

    Do I enjoy that R&J as much as a Nicaraguan CAO? Sure. I just get a little peeved when I hear people throw out a blanket statement like "Cubans are the best" when all they have to base that on is the legend...and the embargo.
     
  6. dkzzzz

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    No offense, but you are assuming too much.
    I have been to Cuba many times. I cannot care less about embargo.
    I smoke Cuban cigars for over 20 years.
    The only non-Cuban brands that could compete with Cuban cigars are:

    Padron Anniversario series.
    Fuentes Opus X
    Davidoff Millennium or special edition cigars.(for mild taste)

    All of above mentioned cigars are non-Cuban and excellent in taste and construction. The question is: Why the hell they cost more than real Cubans?
    The answer: Because of the embargo.
    Could these brands compete with Cuban's? Sure, but not at current rip off rates.
    US consumer is getting ripped off by embargo and denied access to one of the pleasures of life.-Nothing new here though.

    "Cuban consistency/quality has greatly gone down in the last 20 some-odd years while the myth and lure has remained steady. "

    How would you know that? From Cigar Aficionado? Please do yourself a favor and stop relying on that magazine for the info. on cigar quality.
    It is not a professional publication, but IMO, marketing tool for Shenkin's investments.

    Take a wild guess.  What do you think fat bastard Shenkin has in his personal humidor?
    Macanudo? Dominican Partagas, Gurka? 
    I wish FBI ransacked his personal humidor and confiscated all those vintage Cuban cigars that fat BSer has.
     
  7. whodini

    whodini Senior member

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    "Cuban consistency/quality has greatly gone down in the last 20 some-odd years while the myth and lure has remained steady. "

    How would you know that? From Cigar Aficionado? Please do yourself a favor and stop relying on that magazine for the info. on cigar quality.
    It is not a professional publication, but IMO, marketing tool for Shenkin's investments.


    To each their own flavor, but if you'd look at production output coming from Cuba over even the last 10 years, you'd see that they're only pumping out more and more and more cigars than the previous year. You can't tell me that if they keep upping exports by 5-10 million cigars a year that you're going to get the same quality as before. Just isn't possible. Factor in Cuba's growing economic woes that are only growing more dire as the years go on, you really think QC at a factory is going to give a crap about strict standards when they know that worldwide demand is endless and the government is pressuring them to roll out more?

    Not to mention the fact that something like "Montecristo" isn't just a single factory: it's several. They can pick and choose quality in the shipment to the point where Austria might get a better shipment than France.


    So like I said before, to each their own in terms of preference. Taste is all in your head anyway.
     

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