To get back to the original question... Upon deliberation I've purchased the Dunhill from STP. It's one of the Japanese models so many have had issues with. I've never bought anything from STP before and was able to get the additional 20% off. I ended up buying 4 suits: Samuelsohn, Belvest, Bryant black label, Dunhill. Samuelsohn is always worth $480. Frankly, if the suit was made in Italy and not Montreal it would retail for 50% more. If you want canvas construction, good cloth, and reasonable prices, give the brand a shot, very underrated. The cut can sometimes be boxy but not always. The Brant actually looks decent (relative to the make). I don't know who made it - it's from Italy not Canada. If anyone knows anything about this "black label" Brant let me know; I've never heard of it. The retail on it was $1200 and I paid $288. It's 2btn w/ high gorge, flat front pants, deep charcoal solid. No mention if it's canvas or fused, although I expect the later. At the price I paid I don't really care. I'll wear it to work and throw it in the garbage in a couple years. The Belvest. Well. I don't need to talk about that, except to say I was happy with picking it up for $800. Dunhill. It's the Japanese version I've heard nothing but bad things about. I expect it to be fused and not as nice as I'd hoped. That said, it's solid navy, 3btns, flat front pants, and that is exactly what I want to replace in my wardrobe, as I need to retire my solid navy Canali. It only cost me $520, so I had to pick it up anyway. If it weren't navy solid, and exactly the style I wanted, I would've passed. I'll use it as a work suit and keep my eye open for better quality solid navy options. Thanks for the feedback people.