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dunhill suits

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by ezboy1000, Aug 20, 2006.

  1. chorse123

    chorse123 Well-Known Member

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    Looks nice! A little unusual, which is great.
     
  2. SuitingStyle

    SuitingStyle Well-Known Member

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    Ya they're like Zegna main line...

    I kinda wish I bought that blazer from Saks once it went to 50% off but they sent all that stuff off to the outlets, or someone bought them, weren't there on Friday when I stopped by, I think the final lowest price was about $280-300 for the blazer.


    Only the "Made in Italy" stuff is made by Zegna , SOF also carry the "Made in Japan" stuff, which is not by Zegna and not nearly as good as the Italian made. STP Dunhill stuff are mostly Japan made, so I would not get them.

    I got one Italian dunhill suit the other day @ SOF for 450 after the 30% coupon, very happy with it...... [​IMG]
     
  3. drizzt3117

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    Only the "Made in Italy" stuff is made by Zegna , SOF also carry the "Made in Japan" stuff, which is not by Zegna and not nearly as good as the Italian made. STP Dunhill stuff are mostly Japan made, so I would not get them.

    I got one Italian dunhill suit the other day @ SOF for 450 after the 30% coupon, very happy with it...... [​IMG]


    I didn't see any of the Made in Japan ones at actual Saks, but wouldn't be surprised if they were at the outlets.
     
  5. ezboy1000

    ezboy1000 Well-Known Member

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    For example, you could have gotten two of these for the same price:

    http://www.sierratradingpost.com/pro...x?baseno=48394

    or the above and this one:
    http://www.sierratradingpost.com/pro...x?baseno=48575

    My point is that instead of purchasing four suits you could have gotten two Belvest or Isaia even if you're considering only STP as a source.

    JM2C


    I understand what you're saying here. The problem though is I said "solid navy and solid charcoal". Also, they're not in my size, 42L, which can sometimes be difficult to find much of.

    The imperative point I want to make is it isn't easy finding plain navy or charcoal on deep discounts, especially the high enders.

    I get your point. Sometimes, like when I bought the Belvest at STP, I buy for the make and not so much for the color. When you limit yourself to solid navy or charcoal the selection becomes very thin on the sale rack. In the end I will probably do MTM for the solid navy during the winter sale in January.
     
  6. drizzt3117

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    I understand what you're saying here. The problem though is I said "solid navy and solid charcoal". Also, they're not in my size.

    I get your point. Sometimes, like when I bought the Belvest at STP, I buy for the make and not so much for the color. When you limit yourself to solid navy or charcoal the selection becomes very thin on the sale rack. In the end I will probably do MTM for the solid navy during the winter sale in January.


    There is that, but my point was that you bought those items even though you admitted on the post that they'd likely not be good quality. I agree that solid navy and charcoal suits are harder to find. I found a couple nice Brioni suits in solid charcoal and navy on ebay but it took a while to locate the right size.
     
  7. ezboy1000

    ezboy1000 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, yes. That's true. I feel like I want the navy and charcoal NOW. Truth is, like most people on this board, I have filled 3 closets of my house with my clothing so far, and one is a large walk in. I think I have 4-5 blue and 3-4 grey suits already - but both my solids need to be retired.

    So... I really don't "need" the suits; I could wait. I tend to buy 3-5 suits per year. As much as I say I will just "wear them anyway", if the quality is below my standards I will send them back. In my OCD way I keep hoping the Dunhill will be surprisingly decent. Yes that's illogical. I know.

    I've been feeling impatient because I can't get my hands on solid navy or charcoal, and have been looking a long time now. I refuse to pay full retail for OTR. I may end up doing the MTM sale and go Zegna. At least then I can style my suit the way I like, get an extra pair of trousers too.
     
  8. aybojs

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    Yes, yes. That's true. I feel like I want the navy and charcoal NOW. Truth is, like most people on this board, I have filled 3 closets of my house with my clothing so far, and one is a large walk in. I think I have 4-5 blue and 3-4 grey suits already - but both my solids need to be retired.

    So... I really don't "need" the suits; I could wait. I tend to buy 3-5 suits per year. As much as I say I will just "wear them anyway", if the quality is below my standards I will send them back. In my OCD way I keep hoping the Dunhill will be surprisingly decent. Yes that's illogical. I know.

    I've been feeling impatient because I can't get my hands on solid navy or charcoal, and have been looking a long time now. I refuse to pay full retail for OTR. I may end up doing the MTM sale and go Zegna. At least then I can style my suit the way I like, get an extra pair of trousers too.


    I just don't see the fuss over having a perfectly solid navy or charcoal suit. I don't have one myself, precisely because it's too much hassle to pay full price for a good one or wait forever for the right eBay auction when I can make do with "close enough" for a much better price. A nailhead, a subtle windowpane plaid, or a shadow stripe in a close color can just as easily pass for solid from all but the closest distance, and is conservative enough that it won't matter for any intents and purposes. More importantly, it's very easy to get patterns that are discreet enough to be de facto solid at a good discount. Having to have solid suits shouldn't be that much of a hangup, especially if you already have a well-stocked suit wardrobe.

    I agree with you that there's no reason to be throwing around $2000 on a sight unseen suit when you can get 3-4 good quality ones for that price, but from personal experience I'm quite sure that you will be disappointed by the Dunhill that you bought in spite of the advice provided here: the Japanese Dunhill suit I got (for around the same price you paid, so it's not like $500 is a once in a lifetime bargain) truly was a piece of crap, and even the rarity and personally much sought-after status of the fabric pattern (I ordered mine because I had been searching forever for a charcoal suit with green pinstripes) were not able to compensate for the low quality of the suit and justify keeping it.
     
  9. ezboy1000

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    I am sure everyone here is right. I've already cancelled the shipment of the Dunhill. I figure it is better to face the truth. I have informed STP to give me a couple days to see if there's something else I might want, so to consolidate the shipping ($45 USD to Canada whether 1 or 4 suits). I would really like to pick up another Samuelsohn but they're 2 buttons, so not my style.

    Depending on sizing I am now open to picking up something better in a subtle stripe blue.

    I appreciate the fact that one can get "close" to plain and really it shouldn't matter. In the beginning I was really stoked about picking up the Dunhill, with what I'd heard about them, and I was trying to delude myself.

    I must thank the forum for saving me from drinking my own Kool-Aid. I have seen the light brothers. The dunhill is done.
     
  10. drizzt3117

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    I am sure everyone here is right. I've already cancelled the shipment of the Dunhill. I figure it is better to face the truth. I have informed STP to give me a couple days to see if there's something else I might want, so to consolidate the shipping ($45 USD to Canada whether 1 or 4 suits). I would really like to pick up another Samuelsohn but they're 2 buttons, so not my style.

    Depending on sizing I am now open to picking up something better in a subtle stripe blue.

    I appreciate the fact that one can get "close" to plain and really it shouldn't matter. In the beginning I was really stoked about picking up the Dunhill, with what I'd heard about them, and I was trying to delude myself.

    I must thank the forum for saving me from drinking my own Kool-Aid. I have seen the light brothers. The dunhill is done.


    Take a look at the Belvest and Isaia models and see if any of them catch your fancy. There are some that are in blue, I'm not sure how subtle they are though.
     
  11. ezboy1000

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    I am so cheap... I want to hold off and ensure I get my 20% first time discount, but there's nothing in blue that is in my size except for the crappy Dunhill.

    Hmm... I think I'll stall them for a few days and see if they get anything new in. I don't know how long I can do that for but I'll try it as long as I can.
     
  12. DGP

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    I am so cheap... I want to hold off and ensure I get my 20% first time discount, but there's nothing in blue that is in my size except for the crappy Dunhill.

    Hmm... I think I'll stall them for a few days and see if they get anything new in. I don't know how long I can do that for but I'll try it as long as I can.



    If you have a credit card that is billed to your office. . . I'm sure you can figure out the rest [​IMG].
     
  13. ezboy1000

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    After reading this I am fairly pleased that I kept the Brant from STP, particularily at $288. Yet I know many here wouldn't wear Brant if it was given to them, lol.

    http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...8/ai_n14952869

    Arnold Brant is going for the gold with its new Black Label collection of full-canvas suits and sport coats made in Italy. Breaking with its ongoing made-in-Canada tradition, Montreal-based SFI is launching a new better collection of tailored clothing for spring under this new label. The line will be made in two top Italian factories and will push SFI into a new high in retail prices with the suits retailing from $1,000 to $1,500.
     
  14. ezboy1000

    ezboy1000 Well-Known Member

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    The suits from STP arrived in blazing time - 2 days to Canada. I also got past customs [​IMG]

    The black label Brant is actually very nice and full canvas. The cloth is noticably better than Brant mainline, supple hand. The cloth is lighter than I thought, more spring summer weight, drapes beautifully. The silhouette is trim, fit is very much like my Canali suits.

    It is much, much higher quality than the Brant made in Canada. My tailor had never seen the black label and was immediately impressed (relative to the brand) - even more so when I told him what I paid for it.

    For some reason the Dunhill was shipped to me even though I tried to cancel it. What junk! I had to take it to show my tailor. I wouldn't let him see the label, didn't tell him the make, and asked him to look at the jacket and tell me what he thought the suit retailed for. He told me he thought it was "Jack Victor" and retailed for "between $650-750". Funny, looking at it I thought the same thing. Not only is it fused, but the cloth felt like coverall fabric, the cut was boxy as anything, and the shoulder pads made me feel like I was trying out for the NFL.

    The upshot of this: I called STP and they told me to return the Dunhill. I asked them if I exchanged it instead if I could still get the 20% off. So, I ended up exchanging it for 2 more suits. Is that against the rules?

    Anyway, here they are:

    http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/4...t-For-Men.html

    http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/4...l-For-Men.html
     
  15. SuitingStyle

    SuitingStyle Well-Known Member

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    nice choice, I was actually eyeing that windpain samuhlson suit , especially its a fully canvessed suit....... please let us know how it is when it arrives.
    also, i think this correanili is a good buy

    http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/1...t-For-Men.html

    with additional 20%, its just 570.
     

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