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Dumb but Honest Question

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by jpeirpont, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. jpeirpont

    jpeirpont Senior member

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    Is faggot offensive to gays, like Nigger is to Blacks , Kike is to Jews and so on?
     
  2. acidboy

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    like the n-word to blacks and k-word to jews, I think the only time it's not offensive is if someone from that community's saying it, in a non-serious manner.
     
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    Depends. If you're British then its a cigarette. If you're old school, or past the age of 60, then fag probably = sissy. Queer was used to single out homo's back then.
     
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    In the south its a go-to insult for anyone. Outside you can assume its a specific reference to homosexuality.
     
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    As a black guy, I'd think you'd know that it is definitely offensive when uttered by a stranger as a slur, but can have a whole host of different grades of meaning depending on context.
     
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    faggot harkens back to the times when homosexuals were burned alive. Put another faggot on the fire. I can see how that can be offensive, when put into context.
     
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    Good rule of thumb: If a word is used to insult somebody based on an innate characteristic, it is offensive.

    Those words exist not to describe something, but rather as an insult that carries all the baggage associated with that characteristic and can't be defended against. It can be context-specific if it's not used to carry the loaded meaning as an insult (by members of the same group, for example), but that still doesn't make it OK to everyone.
     
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    This reminds me of some of Mike Tyson's insults. Like, "You're sweet. I'm going to make sure you kiss me good with those big lips. I'm gonna make you my girlfriend." And the classic, "I'll fuck you 'til you love me, faggot."
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    This reminds me of some of Mike Tyson's insults. Like, "You're sweet. I'm going to make sure you kiss me good with those big lips. I'm gonna make you my girlfriend." And the classic, "I'll fuck you 'til you love me, faggot."
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    Wow
     
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    faggot harkens back to the times when homosexuals were burned alive. Put another faggot on the fire. I can see how that can be offensive, when put into context.

    Hence the adjective "flaming", as in flaming homosexual, flaming faggot, etc.
     
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    faggot harkens back to the times when homosexuals were burned alive. Put another faggot on the fire. I can see how that can be offensive, when put into context.

    Hence the adjective "flaming", as in flaming homosexual, flaming faggot, etc.

    No.

    From Dictionary.com:

     
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    No.

    From Dictionary.com:


    It seems every word/phrase with an apocryphal etymology is not correct.
     
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    Anyone who has been young and gay, or even young and somewhat effeminate, has almost certainly been called a faggot. By other young people and even by adults. (One of my teachers called me a faggot once!) There's no way you could fail to notice the pejorative sense of the term. In fact, use of the term was typically accompanied by a threat of violence. If you are gay, then, you've probably spent most of your life very keenly aware of what the term means.

    Gays have made some effort to co-opt the term. In my experience, gays will sometimes use "fag" affectionately. But I haven't heard "faggot" used affectionately nearly as often.
     
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    i think this was discussed on south park, totally forget which episode. it was surprisingly informative.
     

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