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Dual Passport Holders

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by MaSoB, May 24, 2010.

  1. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

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    I hold two, I know people who have 3. america lets you have two in very specific cases, but like was mentioned, nobody is checking. if you were to attach your irish and your american in a single case and hand them to a border control officer you'd be fucked. (maybe that is why they don't make cases like that.
     
  2. Mblova

    Mblova Senior member

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    I hold 2 but that is because I was born in the US. The 2nd one is British.
     
  3. IUtoSLU

    IUtoSLU Senior member

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    My wife holds two: USA and Guatemala. She was born in Guatemala to American parents. She has never had to renounce either and travels freely abroad using both passports.
     
  4. LabelKing

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    I have Somalian citizenship.
     
  5. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

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    I would like to point out to people who have two and who have never "had to recounce" that they should check the rules and be careful about it. there isn't an office of the government that runs around reminding you that you forgot to renounce your citizenship. on the other hand, your passport is the property of the government and can be taken away at any time, and then it is up to you to prove that you are a citizen.
     
  6. jaypee

    jaypee Senior member

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    I am an Australian and British citizen.

    I’m also eligible for a US passport, but most of the time they make you forfeit one of your others if you already hold multiple. ZERO chance im giving up one to Australia and one for the whole of the EU
     
  7. alliswell

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    I need to consult an actual IRL immigration lawyer, I guess. I would like to naturalize but I would not like to give up my Canadian passport.

    I am a naturalized US citizen. I continue to have my original passport. The rule is that I must act like a US citizen in the US, act like an EU citizen in the EU and I can claim either in any other country. There is no requirement to give up your passport.

    I hold two, I know people who have 3. america lets you have two in very specific cases, but like was mentioned, nobody is checking. if you were to attach your irish and your american in a single case and hand them to a border control officer you'd be fucked. (maybe that is why they don't make cases like that.

    Fucked how? The DHS would take my EU one away, maybe, and then I'd reapply...

    which is why the nice man gave me a Certificate of Naturalization, and gave you a long-form birth certificate.
     
  8. Joel_Cairo

    Joel_Cairo Senior member

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    on the other hand, your passport is the property of the government and can be taken away at any time, and then it is up to you to prove that you are a citizen.

    This is why I avoid Arizona.
     
  9. globetrotter

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    which is why the nice man gave me a Certificate of Naturalization, and gave you a long-form birth certificate.


    there are things that nulify your naturalization, inlcuding lying in any way on the forms that you fill out with naturalization. I don't know what, if anything, is related to your other citizenship on these forms, but people do have their citizanship taken away from them, every now and again.

    more commonly, people spend a lot of effort and money fighting with the goverment over their status. I wouldn't want to be involved in either.
     
  10. BP348

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    So basically, my long ago lawyer was technically correct but in practice, I could keep my Canadian passport?.

    I don't know the whole process but I think the whole naturalized citizen is different then people who derive citizenship in other countries through their parents. I think during the oath of naturalization you have to give up all rights to the other country.

    Don't know if they would check but would it be worth it to loose your us citizenship just to keep your Canadian passport? I would think that going back and getting a new Canadian passport after the oath might void the oath. But that's a guess.
     
  11. blackjack

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    When I looked into becoming a naturalized US citizen, I was told I would have to renounce my Canadian and give up that passport. Did the immigration attorney give me bad info? Can you actually be a US citizen and a citizen of another country? I thought this was one of those uniquely "American" things, that you cannot be a citizen of the US and another country?


    I have both US and Canadian, and my understanding is that it only might be a problem if you're serving in the military. The US is pretty open-minded about dual nationality. I know plenty of people who successfully claimed a second Irish passport As a US citizen, you are required to enter or re-enter the country on your US passport etc. The problems more often occur with other countries who may lay claim on you for military service etc. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1753.html

    For example, if there are any ethnic Koreans on this board, even though they may have been born and raised in the United States, they could be conscripted into the ROK Army if they visit South Korea. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1018.html

     
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    If you live in DC or NY look into shops that cater to UN, WHO, or World bank employees. They carry a UN passport in addition to their personal passports so they would need something like that.
     
  14. jaypee

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    The military servive requirement is true for Greece too.

    Also, this:

    http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1753.html

    US law does not prevent maintaining a prior citizenship.


    However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country.

    It would be my third country, not second.
     
  15. MetroStyles

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    Wow, I am impressed. Triple citizenship!? I thought I was special with two. [​IMG]

    Another tally for dual citizenship without being born in the US.
     
  16. Pundit

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    I hold US and British passports and have a Hartmann leather passport holder that I use. Mine is unmarked, but I have seen them with a USA designation on the exterior (bad idea I think). The cover easily carries the 2; one slips into a full width internal pocket and cannot be seen while the other is held in a half width pocket (and is more easily removed).
     
  17. B2C2V

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    Would it be a problem (for US immigration checkpoint) if your departure stamp is on one passport and entry stamp is on another?
     
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    Would it be a problem (for US immigration checkpoint) if your departure stamp is on one passport and entry stamp is on another?

    As long as you have the proper documentation for entry, it will not stop you from being admitted; but, it could cause security problems.
     
  19. JustinW

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    Would it be a problem (for US immigration checkpoint) if your departure stamp is on one passport and entry stamp is on another?
    Not a problem, but it will cost you an extra 30 mins in the immigration office while the pissed-off officer fills-out additional paperwork and makes a gazillion extra copies of your documents. I won't make that mistake again at Australian Immigration! [​IMG]
     
  20. LawrenceMD

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    i use a passport holder from braun duffel. its just the normal kind like this:

    [​IMG]

    i just slide in the cover from one passport on one side and the other cover under the other side. it still folds flat but is of course a bit bulky. it only holds my passport and airline miles cards and nothing else.

    as to what i do for immigration procedure with two passports:

    i only use my other passport when entering and exiting the country which it was issued. so if its france, then i'll use both the french and US passports (to have both stamped) upon entry and exit to france only. you have to let them know that you're a dual citizen.

    when entering/exiting another country other than the US (I have my US passport stamped). so basically I prioritize one passport for the bulk of travel.
     

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