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Dressing the "NASCAR dad"

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by StevenRocks, Apr 4, 2005.

  1. dah328

    dah328 Distinguished Member

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    I think that same question could be posed to any of the 98% of American men that dress poorly.

    dan
     


  2. StevenRocks

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    I guess you're right, Bradford.  They apparently do think that the look works for them.  And I guess they are dressing like their favorite drivers, too.  I remember when Kyle Petty sported a perm and a bushy mustache in the '80s, a lot of dudes went and did the same.  I'm sure that a lot of Ray-Bans and Wranglers were sold after Jeff Gordon and Dale Earnhardt, Jr endorsed tham.

    Unfortunately, this NASCAR dad look only looks good on the young, fit and decently groomed, basically the same people who would have looked as well in another style of dress.  On those that aren't at least two of the things above, it's a horrible look.  If you've ever seen a Saturday night at a Wal-Mart or a Golden Corral restaurant, you'll see evidence that not everyone who wears this look needs it on.

    One could also make the argument that the look itself can be acomplished for not a lot of money.  A person could put together a NASCAR dad outfit for about $55.00 at your local discount store.

    T-shirt $4.97
    jeans $9.97
    wraparound shades $9.97
    sneakers/workboots $19.97
    driver hat $9.97

    You know, I do wonder what they'd say about the typical SF member?
     


  3. faustian bargain

    faustian bargain Distinguished Member

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    style of dress is culturally reinforced. if you live in a culture, or sub-culture, that dresses a certain way to the exclusion of other styles, such that the knowledge of other styles is not promulgated, then you will tend to dress like the others you see every day. it takes a lot of effort to think outside of the box especially if there is no motivation to have experiences beyond your familiar world.

    to most people in that situation, anything involving a cultural affectation that is from the 'beyond', is considered anywhere from frivolous to life-threatening.

    also interesting to note is that some (sub)cultures foster and encourage insularity, while others promote openness and experimentation.

    /andrew
     


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    faustian bargain Distinguished Member

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    picture from last hallowe'en: (creepy, eh. i thought the cub scout cap was a nice touch.) [​IMG]
     


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    All subcultures foster some norm or standard.  Some just call their norms and standards "openness" and "experimentation."

    dan
     


  6. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Ain't that the truth... A Bush supporting Evangelical Christian Nascar Dad would probably find himself as welcome and comfortable in West Hollywood as a Ralph Nader supporting, legalized marijuana advocate would find himself in Dallas.
     


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    Guess I better stay away from W Hollywood...would not want to bring down any lightning bolts on the community.
     


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    This is an interesting discussion, and many valid points have been raised (e.g., the "appropriateness" of the look to the demographic context suggesting that it "ain't broke" so why fix it?). It seems to me that transcending the practical considerations (warmth, solar protection) and social constraints (i.e., modesty), human beings almost always dress to signify their membership in a group. And when they don't, they dress to signify their desire for membership in a group. Individuality takes a back seat to the need to belong to the herd. This may be a grotesque oversimplification, but that's my take, gentlemen.
     


  9. oscarthewild

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    I think I prefer the look you describe over this. Anyday...
     


  10. faustian bargain

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    heh...i think the point is, the community is the lightning bolt.
     


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    I always thought dudes in their 30's and older look kind of silly when they wear designer jeans and hip shoes. Don't they have other things to worry about, like kids and wives and mortgages? A middle-aged guy looks a lot better in a pair of Levi's, Caterpillars, and a Harley t-shirt than he does in Diesels, Pradas, and a Helmut Lang top. I'm only 22 and I'm already starting to tone my gear down.

    Why do we dress the way we do? Look deep inside; if 'chicks' still isn't the answer, I think you're lying to yourself. Maybe Nascar dudes have just grown up and realized it really doesn't matter what you've got on.
     


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    I don't find a Harley T-shirt or a flame-motif baseball cap to be very grown up at all.  The general look of people who dress like this is a little closer to classic than, say, a head to toe Prada or Diesel outfit, but it's not really "better," just different.

    Sure, having the hippest clothes doesn't matter as much as you get older, but does looking like a reject from a Wal-Mart fashion show really look any better?  I can buy the argument that one has to fit into one's group in terms of dress, but that's no excuse to dress badly.
     


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    Right. I still think that business and formal situations call for a good amount of attention to dress, regardless of age. And, I think more situations should fall under that category (like going to a play, out for lunch or dinner, etc.) But while you're in Wal-Mart, or packing Old Mil' into a cooler, I just don't see why even we fellas on this forum should give a nickel how we're dressed.
     


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    Trust me, these people are going to church (and out to lunch and business situations) looking like this as well.  There are no levels of dress.  It's just that, nothing else.  That's what makes it unappealing to me.
     


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