Dressed Down Shawl Collar Tux Advice Please

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  1. JohnShaft

    JohnShaft Senior member

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    Ok gents, here is the story:

    A wedding. My own.

    The affair will be indoors, in late October, which is still quite warm and humid here in south Texas. It will be small and informal. And by informal, I mean more traditionally so, not 'polos and khakis'. lol

    The three gentlemen guests will be wearing fall-ish suits. So far I've heard grey and dark grey bandied about as some of their colours.

    The bride will be wearing a champagne-ish evening dress but not a formal bridal gown.

    I was planning to go with my black Brooks Brothers shawl collar dinner suit but, being something of a traditional formal dresser, all I have is a silk bow tie and silk/wool low waistcoat to go with.

    I was hoping to find some way to dress it down just a touch more in order to provide less of a delta between myself and the other male guests, using the dinner suit itself to set me slightly apart as the groom.

    Wearing a long black silk tie, with or without a higher black silk waistcoat, had occurred to me but I'm not certain that it would be 'right' with a shawl collar. Any thoughts?

    Could you kind folks possibly suggest some acceptable alternative ideas if the long tie is right out?

    Best regards,

    BD
     
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    TRINI Senior member

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    Prepare for blashphemy

































    Why not skip the tie and just wear your shirt open necked?
     
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    LOL You weren't kidding about the blasphemy, were you? That, good sir, was a stunning display.

    I should probably also point out that I'm 42 and while not bordering on 'portly', do wear a slightly chunky 44 waist with my 48R-L 6' frame. So I'd love a solution that helped elongate me as well.

    Yes, I AM asking for miracles. While we're at it, maybe someone could point me toward the fountain of youth?
     
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    LOL You weren't kidding about the blasphemy, were you? That, good sir, was a stunning display. I should probably also point out that I'm 42 and while not bordering on 'portly', do wear a slightly chunky 44 waist with my 48R-L 6' frame. So I'd love a solution that helped elongate me as well. Yes, I AM asking for miracles. While we're at it, maybe someone could point me toward the fountain of youth?
    The fountain of youth is i believe bottled and distributed by a number of brands such as Kettel 1, Belvedere and Stolichnaya. But be aware you can actually feel older afterwards.
     
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    Either wear full black tie (or white tie) or just go in a lounge suit, your choice.
     
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    being something of a traditional formal dresser

    Wearing a long black silk tie ... had occurred to me


    [​IMG]

    I was hoping to ... set me slightly apart as the groom.

    Seriously, do your gets not know who you are?

    Wear proper black tie rig, or wear a good suit - perhaps something in a navy, and perhaps consider a three-piece if you're looking for a look that's just a notch more formal than the guests are likely to be. If you're getting married during the day, don't even consider dinner suit.
     
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    Just seeing what contemporary fashion may have brought to the old dinner suit is all. Sometimes it's nice to push one's traditional boundaries a bit as long as it looks good.
    Good lord, it doesn't say 'Philistine' next to my avatar, does it? I'd asked them to remove that. [​IMG]
     
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    The fountain of youth is i believe bottled and distributed by a number of brands such as Kettel 1, Belvedere and Stolichnaya. But be aware you can actually feel older afterwards.


    Bless you for the good advice. And as it is 5 o'clock somewhere, I believe I will take it. Off I go for a cocktail while you gentlemen figure out what I can get away with wearing. lol
     
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    I don't think it will take us long to figure out that shawl-collared dinner suit + normal tie is a no-go, but do enjoy your drinks [​IMG] /U.
     
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    Either wear full black tie (or white tie) or just go in a lounge suit, your choice.

    +1

    First, as you say it is indoors, the weather is irrelevant.

    Second, there is no way to "bridge the gap" between a lounge suit and black tie. It is, however, quite easy to bridge the gap between black tie and total prat. I do not advise you to try it.

    As this is quite a small wedding, it's understandable that you don't want to be dressed at a different level than your guests. But you can't do that by butchering black tie. Try a dark navy double-breasted suit with a Macclesfield. Or just an SB with a flower in your lapel.
     
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    Either wear your black tie outfit, or a dark "business" suit. Remember, your job is to not fuck it up for the bride.
     
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    You could still do the vest but wear the shirt open, just make sure that you do not distract from the bride with your outfit.
     
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    So it's down to either the pimp-a-licious open collar or tie my bow and be done with it? Oh well. Same old black tie it is then.

    At least this will give me the excuse for a new formal shirt. Never underestimate the power of shopping.
     
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    Oh, and thank you gentlemen very much for taking the time to converse and advise on the subject. I truly appreciate it.
     
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    Suggest an ascot, preferably coordinated with the bridesmaids halter-tops. Since you're dressing down on your wedding day and all that.
     

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