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Dress shoes with jeans.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Coffee, Jul 17, 2007.

  1. Coffee

    Coffee Active Member

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    Dress shoes with jeans, eh? Surely a subject which has been discussed previously yet I haven´t really found what I was looking for in those threads.

    I´m a fan of the look and would like to see what kind of dress shoes posters here wear with their jeans. I´m mostly looking for inspiration as I´m about to order my first pair.

    I am initially thinking about tan or dark brown wingtip oxfords or derbys. Due to my location my selection is pretty much limited to english shoes (C&J, Trickers etc.). I already own two pairs of C&J´s so finding something from their lineup would be nice because picking the right size would be easier.

    Even with all the pictures of shoes, I find it hard to see which shoes would go with jeans. This is where I need your help. Post closeups of your shoes worn or just make suggestions. How do you think, for example C&J Canterbury or Finsbury wingtips or Trickers Ascot derbys would go with jeans?

    All kinds of input is appreciated. However, let´s not use this thread to argue whether wearing dress shoes with jeans is appropriate in the first place, shall we.
     
  2. lakewolf

    lakewolf Senior member

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    I wear my jeans mostly with dress shoes. Monks, slim lace ups, chelsea boots
     
  3. Get Smart

    Get Smart Senior member

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    Lot of guys wear dress shoes/boots with jeans in the WAYWT thread (Drizzt, Saucemaster, BraidKid, Berlin Report, RyeGB, JPGM and myself immediately come to mind)

    you should scroll thru there and see if anything moves you
     
  4. BrettChaotix

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    One of our members, distinctive, sells used shoes for really nice prices. I'm getting a couple of pairs of AE's at a great price to experiment. I'm getting a pair of Kennetts and a pair of Stockbridge in brown and black, respectively. I think I'll be able to make those work well with casual outfits.

    Here's his ebay store http://stores.ebay.com/DistinctiveFootwear if there is something you like, message him here.

    I'd really love to get a pair of the AE Taunton boots but don't want to pay the price for a brand new pair (yet)
     
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    I am initially thinking about tan or dark brown wingtip oxfords or derbys. Due to my location my selection is pretty much limited to english shoes (C&J, Trickers etc.). I already own two pairs of C&J´s so finding something from their lineup would be nice because picking the right size would be easier.
    I do this. The look I like is dark denim (raw is great) with a straight or slightly tapered leg, paired with a monk, plain toe derby or chelsea. I also do non-black oxfords, and I think the right ones work great, especially the lighter colored ones like tan. Wingtips work better than cap toes, but lighter colored cap toes work very well. (I want to get light tan or caramel-colored wingtips with heavy broguing just for regular medium blue jeans one day.)

    The key is to use sleeker dress shoes and a dressier looking shirt (and jacket if appropriate). A-E, for example, does not seem to create the right look, but C&J, EG (even the 202 last, their most classic and least sleek, which is still sleek), and especially Lobb Prestige shoes work great.
     
  6. Coffee

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    Thanks!

    From what I´ve gathered C&J lasts generally do work with jeans.
    I´ll scroll through the What are you wearing today -thread or at least part of it and gather up ideas. I´m a bit surprised and disappointed that C&J doesn´t do
    a derby modelled brogue (or is it wingtip blucher).
     
  7. josepidal

    josepidal Senior member

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    I have a pair of C&J tan plain cap toe oxfords that are great with both a navy suit and dark denim. Enjoy.

    I would have to have a pair of wingtip oxfords with heavy broguing in a slightly lighter color for jeans.
     
  8. migo

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    Black brogues, I find, go well with jeans.
     
  9. josepidal

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    Yes; to clarify, however, I think black cap toe semi-brogues are much too severe. Black plain toe (no cap) oxfords are probably right on the threshold, but I think a sleek enough pair can look as good as black wingtips.
     
  10. NoVaguy

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    yes, but i never wear black balmorals oxfords (cap-toes, wing-tips, etc) with denim. generally, i would never wear balmorals with denim, but i could see it with a brown wholecut or tan cap-toe. But I've never done that.

    bluchers and monkstraps are pertty good, and boots are ideal - my go-to shoes with denim are a black chelsea, black zip-up, brown jodphur, and brown shell cordovan back strap boot. and a black algonquin toe monkstrap.
     
  11. drizzt3117

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    I'm not fond of wearing EGs or JLs with jeans, although I do it from time to time, as I feel the shoes look too dainty. I like AE and Vass with jeans more, and for more sleek looks, paul smith makes some nice "dress" shoes with interesting details.
     
  12. josepidal

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    I'm not fond of wearing EGs or JLs with jeans, although I do it from time to time, as I feel the shoes look too dainty.
    I've heard this before, and honestly, have never understood it. I'm not trying to argue, but am interested why it strikes you this way. I mean, if you can wear a nice pair of chelsea boots with jeans, then why not a pair of plain toe monk straps? Or do you mean jeans and a particular kind of shirt?
     
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    the answer, to put it simply, is yes.

    almost any dress shoe is fine with jeans. even black bals. probably not quite as cool as an antiqued dark oak wingtip but I think they are all fine. even a wholecut is fine.

    the original blue jeans wearers probably wore country bluchers or boots, or cowboy boots. same as james dean and brando
     
  14. drizzt3117

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    I've heard this before, and honestly, have never understood it. I'm not trying to argue, but am interested why it strikes you this way. I mean, if you can wear a nice pair of chelsea boots with jeans, then why not a pair of plain toe monk straps? Or do you mean jeans and a particular kind of shirt?
    It's because of the thin leather sole, I think. They just look like they're meant to be worn with suits, and not with jeans. The last shape may have a lot to do with it as well. Italian shoes tend to be fine, though, IMO, just not english.
     
  15. pinoy

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    The key is to use sleeker dress shoes and a dressier looking shirt (and jacket if appropriate). A-E, for example, does not seem to create the right look, but C&J, EG (even the 202 last, their most classic and least sleek, which is still sleek), and especially Lobb Prestige shoes work great.

    I'm with Josepidal on this one. Sleekness is key if you're going for a dressier look. C&J, RMW, and EG all make great, sleek shoes. Boots are also an excellent option- check out the WAYWT thread for ideas. You could go with a chunkier boot like AE for a more masculine, rugged look or Chelseas for a sleeker, dressier look.

    Personally I like going for dark brown shoes. They seem much more versatile than tan and more stylish than boring black.
     
  16. drizzt3117

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    I'm with Josepidal on this one. Sleekness is key if you're going for a dressier look. C&J, RMW, and EG all make great, sleek shoes. Boots are also an excellent option- check out the WAYWT thread for ideas. You could go with a chunkier boot like AE for a more masculine, rugged look or Chelseas for a sleeker, dressier look.

    I tend to feel exactly the opposite. I think sleeker shoes are only going to work if you hem to the point of zero break, like GS does on some of his looks. If you have any stacking, JL/C&J etc is going to look dainty and out of place. Even without a break, I still think sleeker thin soled shoes look off. Vass U-last with double sole are certainly sleek but look a lot better with jeans IMO.
     
  17. josepidal

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    It's because of the thin leather sole, I think. They just look like they're meant to be worn with suits, and not with jeans. The last shape may have a lot to do with it as well. Italian shoes tend to be fine, though, IMO, just not english.
    I'm not sure this explains why people have the perception. First, there are rubber-soled shoes that do not look chunky and look almost as dressy as leather-soled ones. Second, there are English shoes that look as sleek and even as "dainty" as Italian ones, and Lobb, for example, is pushing a more modern look in its latest catalogs. Marquee models like the Vale and the Luffeld (Casino Royale shoe), for example, push sleekness and a plain toe that showcases leather quality.

    Regarding stacking, maybe I'm different in that I'm not tall and thin, and I have a small shoe size relative to my build. I'd have to get a considerably slimmer jean (and I wear New Standards already) or even one that tapers considerably more to stack; otherwise, the hem will just drag on the ground. I also thought stacking looks better on thinner guys.

    This may explain why I go for the sleeker dress shoes for this look.
     
  18. NoVaguy

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    I agree with drizzt - I never wear my EG's or C&J handgrades with denim, since both are single sole shoes. Denim is a "heavy" fabric, and it calls for a heavy shoe. AE's are great with denim, especially due to the bigger heel which helps balance the look. In many ways, wearing EG's with denim is like wearing triple sole shell cordovan's with a lightweight 180's suit - an incongruity which can spoil the look if not done well.

    Almost the shoes I mentioned above either come with double leather soles (the shell cordovan back strap shoe) or with some sort of rubber sole (black chelsea, black AE monstrap, and brown jodhpur)

    the black zip-up boot is a single layer leather sole shoe (it's an AE york), and of the 5 I mentioned, it by far gets the least amount of wear with denim (maybe 2 or 3 times in my life so far - i tend to wear it more often charcoal dress pants). But it does have a much bigger sole profile than my EG's or C&J weymouth, which is better with denim from my perspective.

    There are a lot of other variables (such as shoe material), so these aren't absolutes.
     
  19. josepidal

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    Wait a minute, mind if I ask what jeans you two wear? Denim is generally a heavy fabric, but I think cut is a bigger factor in pairing jeans with shoes.
     
  20. drizzt3117

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    Wait a minute, mind if I ask what jeans you two wear? Denim is generally a heavy fabric, but I think cut is a bigger factor in pairing jeans with shoes.
    I have about 40 pairs of jeans, the vast majority of which are raw, in differing cuts, but mostly slim ones. Leg openings range from 8-10". All of my jeans are dark, and I hardly ever wear any dress shoe lighter than cognac with them. There are about 3242309809823098 pics of me wearing dress shoes with jeans in the WAYWN thread.
     

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