these just arrived in the mail today http://www.zappos.com/n/p/p/109565/c/3938.html i am a 8 1/2 EE and they fit exactly to that measurement which is the problem with my brooks running shoes it's ok to wear my exact size because the material is really soft and stretches. leather doesnt exactly fit that description. they were air-tight. what do you call that thing that wedges your foot in? i needed one of those badly, i broke out a sweat just getting them on. at least the width was perfect so i'm returning them tommorow for 9s which hopefully won't end up too long. had no clue you'd have to adjust the size of shoe depending on the material it's made out of know what i mean?