Dress codes,. written and otherwise

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  1. Patrick Bateman

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    Don't you dare...that's the classiest label in the world.
     
  2. Cliff

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    Originally Posted by globetrotter,June 10 2005,09:55
    On a regular basis I will find people . . . who have left labels on the sleeves of their suits.
    This brings a question; should the tie match the label ? Â Â [​IMG]
     
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    And the biggest.
     
  4. Cliff

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    I work in a Fortune 500 high-tech firm. Our business casual runs from sandals and T shirts (software types), shirts (short and long sleeved) dockers and sneakers (engineers) to the slightly (and only slightly) better dressed marketing types.

    No one in our building, including the VP's wears suits unless, of course, they are meeting with a customer. I wear a sport jacket, long sleeved dress shirt, slacks and nicely polished shoes (no tie). Needless to say, as an engineering director, I do dress better than my VP and do get occasional positive comments.
     
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    Manton,
    probably not very useful, but...for Prague, Czech rep. Many black suits, people here still belive that black suit is ok for bussines. No balmorals, just bluchers...ok, let´s say 90%...main reason is, you can´t buy them in Prague...don´t ask me why...but even in Nurnberg (Germany) bluchers are much more common. About 80% of shoes are with rubber sole...and not very nice..Ecco and Lloyd are top dress shoes here..sad, but they are still much better than others. Boss or Maks+Spencer suits are considered to be top RTW producs. Reason is, that purchasing power here is not very high and people are driven by advertisement very much. Yes, there is shop with Zegna and Brioni and some bespoke tailors, but prices of those products are not acceptable for 90% of people here...and they are even 30-50% higher than in Germany.
     
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    ([email protected] @ June 10 2005,08:41) I never wore short sleeve shirts though.
    Thank you....... [​IMG]
    ...you cufflink junkies are just waiting for someone to launch a short sleeve shirt with french cuffs.... [​IMG]
     
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    Originally Posted by [email protected],June 10 2005,08:41
    I never wore short sleeve shirts though.
    Thank you....... [​IMG]
    ...you cufflink junkies are just waiting for someone to launch a short sleeve shirt with french cuffs.... [​IMG] Yes, so I can train my dog to pee on it.
     
  8. JLibourel

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    I have told my story occasionally, but here in brief is my sartorial/employment history.

    I started out full-time employment as an assistant professor. In those days (1969-1973), coat and tie were still very much the expected norm for professors in the classroom, at least at Texas Tech, where I was teaching. The professorial attire in my department was stereotypically nondescript. The only sartorial standout (a) had independent means and (b) was widely reputed to be gay (sorry to contribute to that stereotype.). I believe that coat and tie largely vanished from the college classroom nationwide during the 1970s...at least according to a good friend who has remained in academia.

    After my departure from academia, I worked for three years (mostly writing contracts) for an insurance company. Although there was absolutely no public contact, the men were expected to wear coat and tie. Since they paid us starvation wages, our attire was correspondingly dismal...and worse yet, it was the 1970s. The male-female disparity there was striking. There we were in our (of necessity) cheap jackets, ties and slacks, while the girls were all running around, even then, in T-shirt and jeans.

    Sometime later I went to work for the Petersen Publishing Company. The prevailing mode of dress was for the most part decent business casual--sports shirt and khakis, that sort of thing. For formal meetings and entertaining visiting dignitaries, etc., coat and tie were the absolute rule. At trade shows, we were under strict orders to be in coat and tie at all times. (To show you how times have changed in but a few years, at recent SHOT Shows, most of my former colleagues still with the successor company that acquired Petersen have been seen tramping around in cheesy logo shirts, some of them even wearing camo pants and hunting boots. (You see how easy it is for me to outclass them with such "low end" apparel as Corneliani, Chan and A-E.)

    After 19 1/2 years with Petersen, I jumped ship to go to work with my present company. Here there was a total "anything goes" approach to office attire. Most of the men look like they belong on a roofing crew. For example, my opposite number at one of the other magazines is wearing a T-shirt, baseball cap and jeans, while I am in a sport coat, tie, khakis and Allen-Edmonds--the Benton in merlot, which I know some of our shoe connoisseurs would despise. In any event, although I had always had a somewhat above-average interest in clothes (my best friend accused me of being "foppish" as far back as the 70s), I really rebelled and became much more of a "clothes horse" than ever before, which is why I am a regular visitor to these fora now. Things are looking up, though. One of our new men regularly comes to the office dressed much as I do, even down to the pocket square. I recently joked that when the fellow presently in the T-shirt and baseball cap comes in in a Brioni suit, I'll know we've won.
     
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    As an examiner for the NYSE we are required to wear suit and tie when we are in the office and anywhere else in the city. Â The wearing of jackets are even the norm for large scale meetings at the Exchange. Â Outside of New York we can dress down if that is the policy of the company we are visiting. Â I'm one of those dinasaurs who still thinks suit and tie should be normal corporate policy. Â Sorry. Â [​IMG] Ken R
     
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    (cuffthis @ June 10 2005,09:35)
    I never wore short sleeve shirts though.
    Thank you....... [​IMG]
    ...you cufflink junkies are just waiting for someone to launch a short sleeve shirt with french cuffs.... [​IMG] Yes, so I can train my dog to pee on it.
    ROFL . [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Thank god I work for a firm that still mandates a suit and tie 4 days a week.

    Panzer
     
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    What do you wear the other three days?
     
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    The #1 sign that a club/bar is not worth going to: they don't let you in wearing jeans. [​IMG]
     
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    The #2 sign that a club/bar is not worth going to: they will let you in wearing jeans. [​IMG]
     
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    I am a rehab counselor, and the only member of the staff who regularly wears a coat and tie to work.

    There is an unwritten rule of thumb that a counselor shouldn't dress much better than the client. This is supposed to facilitate communication.

    This is also horse s---.

    I have had clients comment that they appreciate my dressing in a professional manner. Certainly their family members are pleased to see somebody who appears to know what he's doing.

    I have also experienced clients who have made snotty remarks about my clothing, hoping to pick a fight and thus avoid discussing their addictions. With these folks, I simply remark that I take them and their disease seriously and dress accordingly. This generally shuts them up.

    Most social service types dress in a style I think of as "Bad Day at the Dog Track" (which isn't fair, really, as you can see some pretty funky attire at the greyhounds).

    My objective in dressing as I do is two-fold: to look like a pro, and to have some fun.
     

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