Drake's ties ruined in shipping?????

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  1. newyorknoir

    newyorknoir Senior member

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    I had two Drake's ties shipped to me from London—grenadine and 50oz royal twill, 9cm so I had to order from London as nobody else carries that width. There was no domestic tracking offered, and I wasn't there on the day that USPS tried to delivery the package. Either the delivery guy put the notification on the outside of the storm door (of course), so it blew away, or was smoking crack rock on the job and forgot to give me a slip altogether, but I didn't find out that I missed the delivery until Drake's emailed me 8 days later reminding me that the package was waiting for a reschedule.. I assume it was probably around 13 days in transition time total, and when I took them out of the box they were folded in I found these huge indentations..

    Do they just need to be pressed? Can Tie Crafters fix this without a problem, or should I send them back? I'm not a tie expert, so I don't even know if they're lined or not, but if they are would this have damaged the inner-lining and affect the drape? I've had ties shipped from London before (Charvet and Drake's via Mr. Porter) and don't ever remember having this problem, so I assume it was a combination of the way they were folded, the silk, and the amount of time they were sitting in the box. I would have refused the package but there was no insurance offered on the delivery. The thicker silk grenadine has slightly less damage so I didn't post pics.. I assume if the twill can be pressed out then the grenadine should be fine as well.. Thanks!

    The indentations feel stiff and won't correct themselves just from hanging.
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  2. Henry Carter

    Henry Carter Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    It's just where they were folded isn't it? I'd say it probably will fall out with time but you shouldn't press it, that will definitely ruin them. If they are a thick/heavy silk then they make take longer to fall out, so I'd hang them for a few days first and the weight of the tie may help with that.

    If not, something you could try would be get a piece of linen (pocket square is perfect) and put over the silk and skim a dry iron over the area. And I mean skim, not press. No steam because it may go through the linen and water stain the tie.

    Full disclosure: In no way am I advocating this, and take no responsibility if you try it and bugger it up, but it's worked for me in the past.
     


  3. Henry Carter

    Henry Carter Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    P.S they probably are lined and it shouldn't damage the lining. It goes through a lot more than that every time you tie it remember.
     


  4. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Don't get them pressed.

    I had a similar problem with a silk knit from one of the AV's. I opened the package and one of the corners was completely folded in on itself. Deep, deep crease. Hanging nor rolling didn't work (nor did I expect it to as it was near the tip). Put it in the bathroom for about 15 minutes letting it steam and massaged and smoothed it. No problems.

    So shower first and if that still doesn't work, tie crafters.

    EDIT: Ignore my advice. HC is quite a bit more knowledgeable than I, so if he says steam is a bad idea...it's a bad idea. And now I'm thankful that I didn't ruin my tie doing that.
     
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  5. marblehouse

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    5 star thread.

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  6. alliswell

    alliswell Senior member

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    Can't see the problem. Wear them in good health. You will crease them more the first time you wear them. Helps to remember that you wear a tie to stop the soup ruining your shirt.
     


  7. Big Texas

    Big Texas Senior member

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    This. Sort of.

    While I can't say I'd be thrilled if a brand new tie showed up pre-creased, you have to realize that such creasing often comes with the territory with stiff, heavy, English-style silk ties.

    You could try (gently) rolling the tie, and letting it sit for a day or so, before unrolling and smoothing it back out (by hand, not iron). You could also try wearing it, crazy as that may sound. It's been my experience that stiff silk ties tend to soften a bit with wear and become more supple. Hell, the problem may self-correct if you put the tie on, tie it, and hand-smooth the blade. The wrinkles on the narrow end may be harder to correct, but that end isn't going to be visible, regardless.
     




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    I also suggest rolling and leaving for a day or so and then hanging - those should come out as they do not look like tight creases. If they are still creased - no harm done by rolling and then go more drastic.
     


  9. JPHardy

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    I sometimes get a crease in ties with constant travel. Hang in bathroom during shower should take care of it.

    I would not take Iron to it or use a steamer.
     


  10. VinnyMac

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    Are you serious OP? What do you do when you see a fold in your shirt, fresh out of the box? Would you make a thread for that too, or would you just plug in your steamer and fix it?
     
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  11. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Jewfro Dubiously Honored

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    Listen to Henry Carter. DO NOT STEAM SILK.
     


  12. GBR

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    You are making something out of nothing. Tying them will cause a greater crease and you will hardly write about that. Just hang them up and then wear them normally, forgetting about this as you enjoy them. The heat of your body helps as well.
     


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  14. JPHardy

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    Are you referencing hang in bathroom comment? Or use of steamer? Or both?
     


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