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Double Monk Conundrum

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by msart84, Nov 13, 2011.

  1. Liquidus

    Liquidus Senior member

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    I felt the same way you did about the 348 once I got to try them on in person and I wear a 7D. How do you feel about the other popular C&J lasts, including 337 and 358?
     


  2. Achilles_

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    FYI Paul Stuart has a $50 coupon floating around. Not sure if is still active though. But It would make the PS monks only $428 :slayer:
     


  3. Verniza

    Verniza Senior member

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    Aesthetically speaking, I'd go for the Carminas.

    Go drop them an email on the fit!
     


  4. PorterInjax

    PorterInjax Senior member

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    Epaulet is going to be carrying Carmina double monks in a week or two
     


  5. meister

    meister Senior member

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    There is also a dub monk on the Carmina Filadelfia last FWIW but that is prolly only available on line in Europe or special order from the Armoury.

    http://www.styleforum.net/t/266529/more-carmina-shoes/15
     
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  6. MyOtherLife

    MyOtherLife Senior member

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    FTFY



    Though you may disagree, the C&J Lowndes is very popular among SF members and is a great looking shoe.
     


  7. Gdot

    Gdot Senior member

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    I was just in the C & J store on Jermyn street yesterday. Ended up with a pair of Drummonds which are on the same last as the Lowndes (348). Sized down by 1/2 from my usual due to the very long length of the last. And I'm very happy with the fit and shape of the last.

    I just held the Drummonds up to a pair of G & G on the TG73 last for comparison in length. The G & Gs are a full size larger and the overall length of the two shoes is identical. So the C J 348 is a long one.

    I personally object to stopping by the store to try on and then ordering elsewhere. Sure CJ still gets the order. But what about the SA who spent their time with you? They get screwed. (This is of course assuming that the SA was professional and helpful.) If the SA is a dickwad - then sure waste their time and order elsewhere.
     
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  8. sprout

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    http://research.ivo-welch.info/palgrave.pdf


    This is just what they are at the NYC location, so all is not lost.
     


  9. MyOtherLife

    MyOtherLife Senior member

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  10. hrv123

    hrv123 Senior member

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    Any info on the last and/or price point?
     


  11. sprout

    sprout Senior member

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    Oh, you tease, you. [​IMG]

    "very popular among SF members" is not a ringing endorsement for dressing in the world at large. In fact it's almost a safe heuristic for things to avoid.
     


  12. PorterInjax

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    No, other than they plan on having them in stock within the next two weeks don't know much.
     


  13. Von Franz

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    The Epaulet/Carmina monks will be made of shell cordovan, in a rarer color. I'd estimate the price at six or seven hundred dollars. Probably around $640.

    It's a bit steeper than most other options, but it is what it is.

    Chances are, if you spring for those, you'll be pleased with them.

    Other than that, I can vouch for the Sid Mashburns (made by Alfred Sargent) mentioned earlier on this thread.

    They're very good shoes, and mine are serving me well.

    As far as I can determine, Alfred Sargent is roughly equal to Crockett & Jones in quality, but the AS for Sid Mashburn double monk shoes have a much better shape.

    To my eye, the C&J's and Paul Stuarts look too elongated and are a little "banana-shaped."

    Those Inca-Last Carminas look nice, too.

    That would have been my second choice after the Mashburn monks.

    -VF
     


  14. kungapa

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    Which last? Inca or simpson?
     


  15. SuitedDx

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    I own the Lowndes and they work very well for me (just ordered a pair in brown actually 30 minutes ago). I wear a UK 6E and the extra length actually is not an issue IMHO; in larger sizes, I can definitely see how this can be problematic. Conversely, this is the reason I did not opt for the AS Ramsey (which I think is excellent price:quality ratio) because I wanted a slightly elongated toebox to balance out the double-monk instep/body.
     


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