I've been looking for a great double monk for a while, and living in NYC affords me some excellent opportunities to find good quality shoes. However, I think the two shoes I'm leaning towards are the C+J Lowndes and the Carmina DM in the Inca last from the Armoury. I much prefer to try a product on before I buy, so that is affecting my decision as well. How do these two models compare? Does anyone know what the retail price is of the Lowndes in the NYC store? I'm thinking about trying it on and ordering from Pl*l if it much cheaper from the latter. I do feel a tad guilty even thinking about that tactic, as it seems a bit deceptive to the sales staff, but it may need to be done. I look forward to getting some response.