Double Breasted Sport Coats (not blazers)

[Sanguis Mortuum]

Originally Posted by bowtielover

Yes they are dated I never said they weren't but they are an accesorie and not a main peice. There is a huge diffrent between a dated accesory and a dated peice like a jacket.

If you think that wearing a DB jacket draws any more attention than wearing a bow-tie then you're sorely deluded.

 

[radicaldog]

Linen or other not-too-formal summer cloth in a solid colour, 4x2/1 configuration, three patch pockets, side vents: perfect. Go for it. I'm contemplating something similar at the moment, though I might end up making a simple blazer with horn or MOP buttons in that configuration.

 

[NewYorkIslander]

I know I've seen great ones in WAYWT, but something about patch pockets doesn't sit right with a DB jacket...to me DB screams formality (in the modern sense of the word) and patch pockets yell , relax, your relaxing in front of a fire in the country!

 

[radicaldog]

Originally Posted by NewYorkRanger

I know I've seen great ones in WAYWT, but something about patch pockets doesn't sit right with a DB jacket...to me DB screams formality (in the modern sense of the word) and patch pockets yell , relax, your relaxing in front of a fire in the country!

One man's modus ponens is another man's modus tollens: to me the patch pockets take away some of the excessive stiffness of a DB. Of course a mid-way solution would be to have a welted breast pocket, but then I think that a patch breast pocket goes very well with 4B DBs. Also, a 4B DB is less formal than a 6B, other things being equal.

 

[Manton]

Originally Posted by radicaldog

Linen or other not-too-formal summer cloth in a solid colour, 4x2/1 configuration, three patch pockets, side vents: perfect. Go for it. I'm contemplating something similar at the moment, though I might end up making a simple blazer with horn or MOP buttons in that configuration.

If you're going to do it, this is the way to do it.

 

[luftvier]

Originally Posted by bowtielover

Yes they are dated I never said they weren't but they are an accesorie and not a main peice. There is a huge diffrent between a dated accesory and a dated peice like a jacket.

You are wrong. Just accept this and move on.

 

[Film Noir Buff]

Originally Posted by luftvier

You are wrong. Just accept this and move on.
I am actually getting a Duchamp bow tie to wear with a new three piece suit and I haven't worn one in a long time.

 

[Sanguis Mortuum]

Originally Posted by bowtielover

The style is a bit much for a sport coat. It's fine for a blazer and even a suit if your going for that dated look.

(Zegna Fall 2010)

(Dries van Noten SS 2010)

(Lanvin SS 2010)



Apparently none of these people got the memo from BowTieLover that double-breasted is 'dated'

 

[Parker]

Originally Posted by radicaldog

Linen or other not-too-formal summer cloth in a solid colour, 4x2/1 configuration, three patch pockets, side vents: perfect. Go for it.
Yes. This would probably be better in a 4B, but still nice.

 

[NewYorkIslander]

Originally Posted by radicaldog

One man's modus ponens is another man's modus tollens: to me the patch pockets take away some of the excessive stiffness of a DB. Of course a mid-way solution would be to have a welted breast pocket, but then I think that a patch breast pocket goes very well with 4B DBs. Also, a 4B DB is less formal than a 6B, other things being equal.

You know the more I think about why they don't sit well with me, the less sense it makes. I mean, its a sport coat, its not supposed to be "formal". Although I'm sure today's modern dress standards and trends have something to do with the oxymoronic position...

 

[alliswell]

Originally Posted by Sanguis Mortuum

They're not dated, but they will be by summer - and they've crossed the line that divides menswear from womenswear that apes menswear. These are different in one key regard - a man's jacket will cover his ass and de-emphasize his hips, and a woman's will reveal hers. By that light, this is womenswear, and is intended to be dated.

 

[luftvier]

Originally Posted by Sanguis Mortuum

Apparently none of these people got the memo from BowTieLover that double-breasted is 'dated'

Don't fight him. Just ignore him.

 

[Sanguis Mortuum]

Originally Posted by alliswell

They're not dated, but they will be by summer - and they've crossed the line that divides menswear from womenswear that apes menswear. These are different in one key regard - a man's jacket will cover his ass and de-emphasize his hips, and a woman's will reveal hers. By that light, this is womenswear, and is intended to be dated.

I have no idea what you're on about. Obviously there is a line between style and fashion, where fashion comes and goes but something that is stylish is always stylish. The very mention of the word 'dated' implied we are talking about fashion though, since something that is timelessly stylish will never be 'dated', and the simple fact is that double-breasted suits and jackets are very much having a resurgence at the moment in the 'fashion' world.

Whether you want to take your cues from 'fashion' or not is debatable (and most on this forum don't), but it's pretty clear that to describe the double-breasted look as 'dated' is just plain wrong.

 

[Film Noir Buff]

Originally Posted by Sanguis Mortuum

I have no idea what you're on about. Obviously there is a line between style and fashion, where fashion comes and goes but something that is stylish is always stylish. The very mention of the word 'dated' implied we are talking about fashion though, since something that is timelessly stylish will never be 'dated', and the simple fact is that double-breasted suits and jackets are very much having a resurgence at the moment in the 'fashion' world. Whether you want to take your cues from 'fashion' or not is debatable (and most on this forum don't), but it's pretty clear that to describe the double-breasted look as 'dated' is just plain wrong.
What you say is somewhat true but remember people will carry some associations fixed at a certain time in their life to the grave. There are just some people who will never get over the time when double breasted odd jackets (aside from the blazer) were gauche. It is incumbent on the wearer to bear this in mind. I could give another example with jacquard striped shirt which for a certain generation is solely for evening events but for another has become a perfectly acceptable day shirt.

 

[The Louche]

Originally Posted by Master-Classter

Petrol Blue linen with white MOP buttons? Doesn't Phat Guido have one like that?

like this:

I always loved this coat. It's righteous. I would call this a blazer though, not a SC.