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Double Breasted Fresco

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I haven't had direct experience with Minnis' Fresco, but have had suits made up out of other high twist derivatives. In my experience high twist fabrics have a tendency to pill in areas that see a lot of friction i.e around the crotch seam. This pilling isn't detrimental to the longevity of the cloth but it's something to consider that they probably will pill at some stage.
 

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Originally Posted by Manton
It's funny, I don't own a single non-laconic suit, in that not one of my suits has ever spoken a word to me.

That seems a rather dull relationship, compared to the one Foof has with his new Aldens.


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Originally Posted by voxsartoria
That seems a rather dull relationship, compared to the one Foof has with his new Aldens.


- B

Yeah, well, call me square, but I prefer a purely Platonic relationship with my clothes.
 

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Originally Posted by George
I haven't had direct experience with Minnis' Fresco, but have had suits made up out of other high twist derivatives. In my experience high twist fabrics have a tendency to pill in areas that see a lot of friction i.e around the crotch seam. This pilling isn't detrimental to the longevity of the cloth but it's something to consider that they probably will pill at some stage.
I forgot about that but yes the seams get extra fuzzy. Oh and I meant Laconic as in Spartan. The Spartans were known for wearing coarse, unrefined looking cloth, similar to a Fresco suit. I could understand how an unimaginative literalist with sloppy research skills and a lack of historical and military clothing knowledge would get that wrong.
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Originally Posted by George
I haven't had direct experience with Minnis' Fresco, but have had suits made up out of other high twist derivatives. In my experience high twist fabrics have a tendency to pill in areas that see a lot of friction i.e around the crotch seam. This pilling isn't detrimental to the longevity of the cloth but it's something to consider that they probably will pill at some stage.

This must be what FNB was referring to. maybe. I have never seen it on any of my frescos. I do have a high twist cloth that isn't a fresco, which I haven't had made up yet. I wonder if that the kind of fabric you mean.
 

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Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff
I forgot about that but yes the seams get extra fuzzy.


Oh and I meant Laconic as in Spartan. The Spartans were known for wearing coarse, unrefined looking cloth, similar to a Fresco suit.
I could understand how an unimaginative literalist with sloppy research skills and a lack of historical and military clothing knowledge would get that wrong.
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Yes, this is a widely used meaning of "laconic."

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Originally Posted by dopey
This must be what FNB was referring to. maybe. I have never seen it on any of my frescos. I do have a high twist cloth that isn't a fresco, which I haven't had made up yet. I wonder if that the kind of fabric you mean.

I can only say what I've experienced with clothes made out of high twist fabrics. A high twist is supposed to make a thread less prone to pill but has proved quite the contrary in my own experience. I have had suits made from several different bunches over the years and they've all had the same problem.
 

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Originally Posted by George
I can only say what I've experienced with clothes made out of high twist fabrics. A high twist is supposed to make a thread less prone to pill but has proved quite the contrary in my own experience. I have had suits made from several different bunches over the years and they've all had the same problem.

Were your twist fabrics open, fresco weaves as well? I wonder if that is the difference.

It might be that not all weaves perform the same, even if they are of high twist fabrics.
 

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Originally Posted by Manton
It's funny, I don't own a single non-laconic suit, in that not one of my suits has ever spoken a word to me.

Originally Posted by iammatt
Some people have suits which speak volumes.
Some of my Savile Row Master Tailor Darren Beaman suits are ironic, especially the black one.

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff
Oh and I meant Laconic as in Spartan. The Spartans were known for wearing coarse, unrefined looking cloth, similar to a Fresco suit.
I could understand how an unimaginative literalist with sloppy research skills and a lack of historical and military clothing knowledge would get that wrong.
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Originally Posted by RJman
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We've moved beyond that, Rip Van Winkle.

Now we're into repair services for the Beaman repair services.

Get with the program.


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I just wanted to say thank you for your help on fresco / summer suitings, particularly to Manton - I very much appreciate your help.
 

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Originally Posted by voxsantorum
We've moved beyond that, Rip Van Winkle.

Now we're into repair services for the Beaman repair services.

Get with the program.


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My Beamen needed no repair. I hear Des Merrion does a good job though.
 

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I just wanted to say thank you for your help on fresco / summer suitings, particularly to Manton - I very much appreciate your help.

You are welcome. If you are sourcing the cloth yourself, and you want a smooth finished tropical, I would strongly recommend you look into Rangoon. The price is rock bottom low, and they ain't makin' any more of it.
 

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Originally Posted by Manton
You are welcome. If you are sourcing the cloth yourself, and you want a smooth finished tropical, I would strongly recommend you look into Rangoon. The price is rock bottom low, and they ain't makin' any more of it.
They've practically ran out. Here's a list of what's left in the Rangoon book dated 19/12/08 0106 – 15.0 m 0111 – 22.0 m 0115 – 11.0 m 0123 – 18.0 m 0126 – 35.0 m 0127 – 265.0 m 0131 – 20.0 m 0133 – 7.0 m 0136 – 59.0 m 0137 – 26.0 m 0139 – 10.0 m All other numbers are Sold out & discontinued http://www.hfw-huddersfield.co.uk/ha...seco=M?cate=R?
 

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Originally Posted by dopey
Were your twist fabrics open, fresco weaves as well? I wonder if that is the difference.

It might be that not all weaves perform the same, even if they are of high twist fabrics.


They aren't porous weaves like Fresco, they're more akin to 'performance' or 'travel' cloths, the weave is much denser than you'd see in a typical Fresco. I have my own theory as to why these particular fabrics are vulnerable to pilling.
 

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