Doesn Saphir Rennovateur Darken Leather?

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  1. dreamtripper

    dreamtripper Senior member

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    Do you know if Rennovateur has the potential darken brown cordovan or calf skin? Reason I ask is that I have 2 pairs of RL Marlow wingtips - one in the box and one that I use. The pair in the box is lighter, whereas the pair that I wear is a shade or two darker.

    Asides from the pair in the box being brand new, the main difference is that the I've used Rennovateur several times on the pair that I use.
     


  2. Gdot

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    All conditioners will potentially darken a shoe somewhat. It is simply a function of the added moisture in the leather.
     


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    Isn't the RL Marlow made from a whiskey-shade shell cordovan?

    There's natural variation in the color of this leather.
     


  4. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    If a product has mink oil in it, or pig oil relabeled as mink oil, it can, it probably will darken leather to one degree or another.
     


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    I gather some unscrupulous manufactures do the pig-mink substitution?

    Is there a difference in how the two oils perform?
     


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    Will Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    If the shoes are dry it will darken them initially but the color will return in a few minutes as the oil is absorbed.
     


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    I suggest you use venetian cream instead
     


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    This is what Nick Horween recommends for shell.
     


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    I guess I probably shouldn't have bought the 10 jars of Rennovateur!

     


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    dreamtripper Senior member

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    I think the darker pair was always a little darker, but I'm not a 100% sure so Rennovateur might have had nothing to do with it.

     


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    Nick Horween also specifically mentions Saphir as a great product for use on Cordovan - so don't get your panties in a wad over it.

    And most all cordovan is going to have color variation. Often on the same shoe. That's part of it's beauty.
     


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    I've never noticed Reno darkening shoes, and I have used it a lot. Maybe it does. If it does, it has not been noticeable.
     


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    My Marlows darkened slightly but I felt it darkened it back to its original color cause it lightened after use.
     


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    I love Reno as well, but I use venetian cream on my shell cordovans and they have minimal to no color change.
     


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    We use both Reno and Venetian all the time. Neither changes the color. You may be rubbing it to hard into the leather.
     


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